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Been studying the crusades a bit and have realized that the "Dark Ages" were a myth. Europe was undergoing "one of the great inventive eras of mankind. It should be known as the first industrial revolution in Europe". (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 2 years ago by KiloRomeo 2 years ago by KiloRomeo +19 / -1
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– deleted 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0
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– Ep0ch 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It was actually. 2 years of darkness. 18 months without the Sun or partial sunlight. But the Dark Ages refers to 500 to a thousand years where Rome fell and changed capital because it was sacked and invaded and set on fire. It was anarchic. Not only Rome but Egypt lost its last shreds of power.

A thousand years where the records were destroyed. Religion changed. Constant invasions by barbarians.

Today they're the woke ages. Dark ages are racist.

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– KarlMartell 5 points 2 years ago +6 / -1

No historian uses the term "dark ages" for the early middle ages anymore. The concept is outdated and has been so for quite some time.

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– Ep0ch 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

They actually do. 2 years of Darkness. Killed millions. Recorded by Byzantium. A historian.

Dark Ages. Fall of Rome a few times, destruction of Alexandria, Jerusalem. Invasions by goths, huns, vikings. Etc etc. Rome was sacked, looted, and set on fire. The dominant Empire lost and changed. It moved Capital. Egypt lost what little influence it still had. The region became anarchic.

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– KarlMartell 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

They actually do.

No, they don't.

The time periods you are mentioning are called Late Antiquity and Early Middle Ages.

Educate yourself, retard.

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– Ep0ch 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Educate your, self. Dumbass. Before you talk shit. Who really cares. Except your attitude.

Dark ages. Except there was 18 months of Darkness, and little to no sunlight. Recorded, look it up. Earlier, I doubt it.

Fall of Rome. The end of an empire brought on by Huns, Goths. What. When did the Dark ages, start. Debatable but refered to as, the fall of Rome. What caused the fall of Rome. Nero. Christians. Carthagians. Who. Natural disasters. Internal politics. Constantinople faster became the capital of the holy Roman Empire. Regionally Egypt lost its remaining influence after the last pharaoh Cleopatra, later in the dark ages it changed religions to Islam. Are all of its civil wars recorded, about 300 years of wars founding Islam. What about the Christian civil wars on founding it.

I don't care what a museum calls it either. History was changed after the reformation. It created A.D and B.C today C.E and B.C.E. A bunch of monkeys. Where those dates and events really juxtaposition in that period. Prior to the reformation nobody on the planet dated history A.D and B.C and Rome hadn't patented everything either, dated the planet and civilization.

But the Dark Ages had Attilia as one of its main events.

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– KarlMartell 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

Are you drunk or what are you rambling about?

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– Ep0ch 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Dumber than a sack of mules. I am not drunk because you're woke. Let's not call it the dark ages. Because it makes black people feel, who cares. Or let's not call it the dark ages because Catholicism isn't salvation. Yawn tedious.

Again fuckface. Nobody on the planet, prior to after the reformation where history was rewritten by all of two historians into the horrible narratives now, called it AD and BC. Nobody. It inserted a fictitious timeline.

As far as the Dark Ages went it was the fall of Rome starting the Dark Ages. History gets Dark then, it juxtapositions quite a bit from the Roman recording into this other period of antiquity. Why Rome burnt a lot of records earlier even later with Alexandria. Tell me why nobody knows where Alexander's tomb is? Or Cleopatra's?

What caused the fall of Rome. Christianity, barbarians, Carthage? But Attilia the Hun is one of the main Dark age events. Has been.

In the period was huge infighting, both Islam on founding and Christainity fought each other over narratives, for centuries, natural disasters, and barbarians. When did Rome fall, exactly. It moved capital, prior to becoming the Holy Roman Empire. When did Constaninople found. Hey look, there's 2 years of Darkness in there somewhere.

Go on asshole. Tell me the date the Dark Ages started, and ended. See it's a larger reference where you just call it a museum piece. Referencing a huge period where history cut out a bunch of stuff, like the civil wars, blaming them on the Vikings or who cares, and later inserted the AD, and BC timeliness.

Meanwhile you're there being all woke against the crusades, forgetting how Arabs raided Rome in the Dark ages. 846?

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– KarlMartell 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Anno Domini was first used in the 6th century, you ignorant clown.

The third Punic war and destruction of Carthage happened centuries before the early middle ages.

You really have no fucking idea what you are talking about.

What does any of what you write have to do with how historians call the time period? Of course, a lot of knowledge got lost, nobody is disputing that.

Still doesn't change the fact that no historians call the period Dark Ages anymore.

Besides, the timeframe OP references is the time of the crusades in the Levant, hundreds of years after the time you are talking about.

Pay some attention, retard.

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– Ep0ch 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

No AD really wasn't used as a historic reference until much later on in history. After the reformation. Created, who cares what they called a millennial change, I mean 6 centuries later. It wasn't the beginning of an era which makes no other sense to the rest of the globe. Ah that's what Romans are calling it. It wasn't Julius Caesar's birthday. He didn't mark it as AD or BC. What the fuck. Christ speculative. No evidence of him exists. So nobody then would've suggested history dated back 5000 years. Because it didn't, from that one point, you dumb retarded cunt, later historians have made a fictitious timeline. Dating civilization. That happened when it was reformed.

Carthage perhaps was partially destroyed. No, it wasn't to the extents of Jerusalem or Alexandria, Libya no. It retained influence for centuries after the Punic wars. And it was that Roman Empire's final downfall according to most, look up that usurper. Your argument is moronic where Rome was burnt, sacked, and also supposedly completely invaded and put to sword. Nero, Goths, and another invasion force. Then there was later Arabs 846, and then much later Islam.

You're a retard.

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– KiloRomeo [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Source (pdf): https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Barry-Turner-2/post/What-is-sustainability-How-can-we-make-sustainable-development-a-reality-How-sustainability-can-be-measured/attachment/5b8ae7c8cfe4a76455eff9ce/AS%3A666133283733505%401535829959545/download/24916130-gimpel-the-medieval-machine-the-industrial-revolution-of-the-middle-ages.pdf

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– Primate98 3 points 2 years ago +5 / -2

Anyone interested in the time period of the "Middle Ages" should be sure to research the "phantom time" hypothesis.

Conventional history holds that the Middle Ages lasted from the late 5th to the late 15th century, about 1000 years. As one data point, a case is made by Anatoly Fomenko that Jesus was born in what we now refer to as the year 1152 AD.

Since they had to invent almost a thousand years, one can see that conventional history from this time period should be considered very suspect.

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– dziecielina_pala 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Fomenko is a a larper imo, however Illig's phantom time hypothesis is worth to be considered. it's not such a long period after all, just 297 years, and the implications of a successful conspiracy between the papacy and the kaiser to shift the calendar by that many years in order to fulfill a prophecy would be mind blowing. one of my favorite conspiracy theories, if you can put it that way

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– Primate98 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I, for one, hold myself to somewhat more rigorous level of analysis than "is a a larper", but we all insist on doing research our own way. Thanks for your contribution.

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– KiloRomeo [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Link?

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– dziecielina_pala 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

there are books in German by Illig and I'm surprised to find out they were not translated into English. there's an interdisciplinary bulletin that's been published between 89-18, but it's all in German too http://www.zeitensprünge.de/?page_id=572 it's hard to find anything unbiased online regarding this hypothesis. the way it's reported is mainly to discredit it, so I have no useful links in English.

it's funny how on the other hand Fomenko's work is translated to English, but this must be due to the fact that he was hijacked by the Tartaria/mudflood/missing history of America movement. I see the idea of a millennium gone missing thrown around a lot on Bitchute

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– HusbandsLead 3 points 2 years ago +5 / -2

Sounds incredibly fake and gay

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– Primate98 1 point 2 years ago +3 / -2

Did you think up the phrase "fake and gay" yourself? We are all quite impressed. Mind if I use it elsewhere if I credit you?

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– HusbandsLead 3 points 2 years ago +4 / -1

Credit it to your Rabbi.

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– cablez 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

^*site your sauce :D

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– RentFreeCrisisAct 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Like your name? Just sayin bro.

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– HusbandsLead -2 points 2 years ago +1 / -3

Shalom.

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– RentFreeCrisisAct 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Does that mean "im a shill fag" in your land?

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– HusbandsLead -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

My land doesn't pay me per post or per response. Look! I just earned you another shekel!

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– Lasereyes 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

you are in a jew worship cult. you have no idea how to discern reality from fake.

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– HusbandsLead 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Odin drank buckets and buckets of cum.

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– Lasereyes 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks for sharing your fantasies?

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– IGOexiled 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

"Dark" because there wasn't much written. Not much written--because it was all on their cloud servers...

Power goes out, server goes down, everything's lost and history is forgotten. The future generations assume you're an oogabooga spearchucking farmer.

We're in a dark age right now. After the power goes dark and then is eventually restored, the future elites will teach the children that we were illiterate nomadic farmers.

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– KiloRomeo [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Lol true: it's way too disappear anything (or anyone) in the Digital Ages.

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– XharlesDucken 2 points 2 years ago +3 / -1

I don't trust anything the system has served up anymore. Biology, cosmology, history, geology, etc. I trust what I can personally experience, and that only tentatively.

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– Hutter 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That is just taking the easy way out. System serves truth so it can sprinkle all the lies in middle of them unquestioned.

Conspiracy theorists are not smart because they are deny everything that could ever exist, they are smart because they can find what is true and what is a lie in a complicated web of bullshit.

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– glownigger8675309 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

link to entire book?

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– KiloRomeo [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The link below appears to be the full book

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– Lasereyes 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Everytime white people do great things, jews flood them with noggers.

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– brahbruh 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Also worth exploring: phantom time hypothesis

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– Respect_Mah_Covfefe 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

It wasn't dark because nothing went on. It was dark because the people went back to, well, normal, and didn't record every skin tag their granny got. Much ofthe time, they were too busy surviving, and making war with their neighbors. The Romans were highly unusual, in how meticulously they documented everything they could.

As well, the Christians often forced old knowledge to be lost. There was much written that's only recently been discovered, or translated. There are many a bard's tale that have been found to have historical basis.

The conspiracy here should be the creation of the hubris-filled lazy modern mainstream archeology and anthropology, that like to make careers out of not letting the boat rock - we got it all figured out by the early 20th century, so stop looking into anomolies!

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