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Bitcoin is about to die (www.barrons.com)
posted 3 years ago by Traps4GME 3 years ago by Traps4GME +11 / -1
Bitcoin Is on Its ‘Last Gasp’ Before Irrelevance, ECB Officials Say
Bitcoin's demise was baked in far before the collapse of crypto exchange FTX, and digital assets are merely a speculative bubble, the central bankers said.
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– Leporidae 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Lets hope central banks never turn off conversions from fiat to gold so it'll be game over.

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– Vlad_The_Impaler 2 points 3 years ago +4 / -2

Not sure if serious?

Money's value used to be PINNED to value of gold.

Currency used to be a Gold Certificate. A Gold Certificate is a United States issued paper money bill that was fully redeemable in its face value of gold. This means back in the late 1800s and early 1900s you could bring a Gold Certificate to the bank and receive equal value in gold to the denomination.

The fiat currency now is not redeemable for gold. It takes more and more fiat to buy an ounce of gold. The fiat currency loses value every year.

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– Leporidae 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Not serious, since an even remotely comprehensive rebuttal would be long enough to read as a leftist meme.

The regime would basically have to shut down the internet, and possibly electricity, to make it game over for crypto. And then the world would have larger problems.

Meanwhile their own fiat currency scam has been decoupled from gold, is being inflated out of any semblance of value as fast as they can get away with, and they routinely prohibit bank transfers from and to individuals as well as organizations and countries. And their current project is to shut down fiat cash. These problems can only be solved with an insane number of impalements.

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– Traps4GME [S] 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

NO.

You are all missing the point.

I am not saying that the network will go down.

The network can continue ad infinitum.

Peer to peer exchange of BTC can continue ad infinitum.

So what, if you cannot convert it to fiat or CBDC?

Example...you have 100 beans. I and 29 friends keep exchanging the beans. They are good and great beans. No one else knows that we are doing this.

We value one bean $16,000.

However, noone else in this planet (except the 30 of us) likes to do anything with these beans.

Noone is stopping us for swapping our beans, lending it to each other or do whatever with it. However, we have to pay the bills, buy food, pay gas, and the Internet bill and none of these idiots want to accept our beans. All these idiots (except us 30) like to play with some idiotic form of currency called CBDC.

Your arguments please...

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– Vlad_The_Impaler 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Good points.

I'd argue that I can request my employer pay me in bitcoin. he saves payroll taxes, UI insurance, etc. It saves him money.

I get paid in bitcoin.

With bitcoin I can transact with other people who utilize bitcoin.

But you are right. It is doubtful the electric company or water company or cellphone company or internet company is going to accept my bitcoin.

My argument for that is to go off grid as much as possible.

Also, I can transact in both currencies. I can slowly try to transition more and more of my life to bitcoin. It doesn't have to be all at once.

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– vargen 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Money's value used to be PINNED to value of gold.

That was over 100 years ago, and 50 years ago the last fractions of the gold where removed. All that's left now is debt and retards with severe Stockholm syndrome defending that flawed system at all cost.

The real money is Gold and Bitcoin, they both can and should coexist in this modern day world where we need both digital and physical money.

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– Vlad_The_Impaler 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

I was very suspicious of bitcoin and missed the early years.

I still own none. But I like the entire theory behind it and believe something like this very well may be the better alternative to central banking systems hustling fiat controlled by pedophile jew cartels.

Also Gold and silver historically hold value. Maybe for reasons we don't quite understand. Why did our ancient civilizations choose gold as the thing of value? What did they know about it that we don't?

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– vargen 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It's pretty simple, value comes from a set of properties: scarcity, durability, frangibility and acceptability.

  • Scarcity: obviously refers to the limited amount, and the mining process. Nobody can create gold without investing a lot of actual work into mining.
  • Durability: the power of lasting or continuing in the same state by resistance to causes of decay or dissolution. I.e all Gold will always be just Gold, same as ever, no expiry date, no rust or stuff like that.
  • Fungibility: individual units of the same weight are interchangeable, same quality, same density, same properties overall, compare to say chicken the quality varies a lot by the bird, you get the idea.
  • Acceptability: because of the other properties, a lot of people allover the world realized the value of Gold, hence most people accepted it as money.

Now the interesting thing to notice here, is that Bitcoin has the exact same properties, but it also has additional properties, like:

  • Portability: No matter how many Bitcoins or fractions of a coin you put into a wallet, the wallet will always have the same size, this of course also applies to cold wallets stored in a physical object, say a book for instance. That book can hold 0.005, 2 or why not 100 000 BTC. This is practical when moving or storing large amounts.
  • Divisibility: While Gold cannot easily be divided into smaller pieces, and Fiat currency promise to solve that problem with constant inflation in addition to two decimals, known as "cent". Bitcoin has 8 decimals, which can easily be extended to more in the future, and metric prefixes, like Milli Bitcoin 0.001, Micro Bitcoin 0.000001 and so on. This allows usage of fractions of a coin, to solve the problem with it being "deflationary", which means going up in value, which bankers consider a problem.

Ironically when thinking about it, take the consumerism for instance, we consume a lot of crap because our fake fiat currency is literally burning in our pockets. If your money had value tho and where increasing in value over time you'd be more prone to saving, and only purchase stuff you need. This helps prevent over consumerism and moves away from the modern centralized industrial society altogether while bringing us all back closer to the nature, with freedom and decentralization. But of course with modern technology. Seems like some kind of utopia to me if successfully implemented.

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– Traps4GME [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Used to is the keyword here.

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