Win / Conspiracies
Conspiracies
Communities Topics Log In Sign Up
Sign In
Hot
All Posts
Settings
All
Profile
Saved
Upvoted
Hidden
Messages

Your Communities

General
AskWin
Funny
Technology
Animals
Sports
Gaming
DIY
Health
Positive
Privacy
News
Changelogs

More Communities

frenworld
OhTwitter
MillionDollarExtreme
NoNewNormal
Ladies
Conspiracies
GreatAwakening
IP2Always
GameDev
ParallelSociety
Privacy Policy
Terms of Service
Content Policy
DEFAULT COMMUNITIES • All General AskWin Funny Technology Animals Sports Gaming DIY Health Positive Privacy
Conspiracies Conspiracy Theories & Facts
hot new rising top

Sign In or Create an Account

10
Bitcoin is about to die (www.barrons.com)
posted 3 years ago by Traps4GME 3 years ago by Traps4GME +11 / -1
Bitcoin Is on Its ‘Last Gasp’ Before Irrelevance, ECB Officials Say
Bitcoin's demise was baked in far before the collapse of crypto exchange FTX, and digital assets are merely a speculative bubble, the central bankers said.
www.barrons.com
43 comments share
43 comments share save hide report block hide replies
You're viewing a single comment thread. View all comments, or full comment thread.
Comments (43)
sorted by:
▲ 0 ▼
– Vlad_The_Impaler 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

I was very suspicious of bitcoin and missed the early years.

I still own none. But I like the entire theory behind it and believe something like this very well may be the better alternative to central banking systems hustling fiat controlled by pedophile jew cartels.

Also Gold and silver historically hold value. Maybe for reasons we don't quite understand. Why did our ancient civilizations choose gold as the thing of value? What did they know about it that we don't?

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 3 ▼
– vargen 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It's pretty simple, value comes from a set of properties: scarcity, durability, frangibility and acceptability.

  • Scarcity: obviously refers to the limited amount, and the mining process. Nobody can create gold without investing a lot of actual work into mining.
  • Durability: the power of lasting or continuing in the same state by resistance to causes of decay or dissolution. I.e all Gold will always be just Gold, same as ever, no expiry date, no rust or stuff like that.
  • Fungibility: individual units of the same weight are interchangeable, same quality, same density, same properties overall, compare to say chicken the quality varies a lot by the bird, you get the idea.
  • Acceptability: because of the other properties, a lot of people allover the world realized the value of Gold, hence most people accepted it as money.

Now the interesting thing to notice here, is that Bitcoin has the exact same properties, but it also has additional properties, like:

  • Portability: No matter how many Bitcoins or fractions of a coin you put into a wallet, the wallet will always have the same size, this of course also applies to cold wallets stored in a physical object, say a book for instance. That book can hold 0.005, 2 or why not 100 000 BTC. This is practical when moving or storing large amounts.
  • Divisibility: While Gold cannot easily be divided into smaller pieces, and Fiat currency promise to solve that problem with constant inflation in addition to two decimals, known as "cent". Bitcoin has 8 decimals, which can easily be extended to more in the future, and metric prefixes, like Milli Bitcoin 0.001, Micro Bitcoin 0.000001 and so on. This allows usage of fractions of a coin, to solve the problem with it being "deflationary", which means going up in value, which bankers consider a problem.

Ironically when thinking about it, take the consumerism for instance, we consume a lot of crap because our fake fiat currency is literally burning in our pockets. If your money had value tho and where increasing in value over time you'd be more prone to saving, and only purchase stuff you need. This helps prevent over consumerism and moves away from the modern centralized industrial society altogether while bringing us all back closer to the nature, with freedom and decentralization. But of course with modern technology. Seems like some kind of utopia to me if successfully implemented.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ -1 ▼
– Vlad_The_Impaler -1 points 3 years ago +0 / -1

Excellent comment. Well stated.

There may be advantages / disadvantages I'm overlooking though. What are some of the top criticisms of bitcoin that may hold some merit?

The lone fact that it is digital, and not something physical, is alone a barrier to many people accepting it. To them, money was always something they held in their hands. However, these same people would likely accept a government digital currency if it were shoved down their throats. And most of the USD in circulation today only exists digitally.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– vargen 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Some legit criticism would be the 1mb block size limit, with a note on "some", there's a lot of invalid criticism on that topic too. The block size limit was added to prevent spam, by restricting how fast the blockchain can grow.

Since every transaction ever made is logged, and since the blockchain is supposed to run on as many privately owned devices as possible and not on centralized servers, it's vital that it doesn't take up too much disk storage space. Currently around 200GB for a full node.

I think Satoshis mistake here was to expect a continuation of moores law, that is based on 2008's technology, we would all still use desktop PC's today, with spinning magnetic hard drives. Tho those drives would have 128 or 256 TB of storage capacity and doesn't cost more than $50 - $100.

Instead, the smartphone became more popular, then came the SSD drives which are more expensive, hence smaller in storage size but faster which made them more popular. The original idea might have been to allow bigger blocks or some kind of dynamic scaling, but without big storage the blockchain needs to be kept small in size to ensure it remains decentralized.

Today we do have bigger storage mediums at reasonable cost, and a increased block size could be justified. That said, there's been plenty of upgrades which aims to fix the scaling issue, first segwit which reduce transaction size, hence doubling amount of transactions that fits inside a block. Then the beech32 update and now the lightning network which uses parallel chains.

And beside Bitcoin, there are also a few valid alt coins, all with their own brilliant solutions to the scaling problem. From parallel chains, to dynamic block size and more. In the end, if we all reduce consumption anyway, there won't be a need for huge transaction throughput.

permalink parent save report block reply

GIFs

Conspiracies Wiki & Links

Conspiracies Book List

External Digital Book Libraries

Mod Logs

Honor Roll

Conspiracies.win: This is a forum for free thinking and for discussing issues which have captured your imagination. Please respect other views and opinions, and keep an open mind. Our goal is to create a fairer and more transparent world for a better future.

Community Rules: <click this link for a detailed explanation of the rules

Rule 1: Be respectful. Attack the argument, not the person.

Rule 2: Don't abuse the report function.

Rule 3: No excessive, unnecessary and/or bullying "meta" posts.

To prevent SPAM, posts from accounts younger than 4 days old, and/or with <50 points, wont appear in the feed until approved by a mod.

Disclaimer: Submissions/comments of exceptionally low quality, trolling, stalking, spam, and those submissions/comments determined to be intentionally misleading, calls to violence and/or abuse of other users here, may all be removed at moderator's discretion.

Moderators

  • Doggos
  • axolotl_peyotl
  • trinadin
  • PutinLovesCats
  • clemaneuverers
  • C
Message the Moderators

Terms of Service | Privacy Policy

2025.03.01 - qpl2q (status)

Copyright © 2024.

Terms of Service | Privacy Policy