That's fine; it's easy to explain all sorts of celestial phenomenon using the geocentric model. The problem is that there's no single way to explain all observable phenomenon.
So you can, for example, explain and even predict the moons movement, but the same methods can't predict how stars move, hence the idea of 12+ celestial spheres which the stars are attached to. By the same token, the methods of predicting stars geocentrically can't explain the moon or sun.
The heliocentric model explains everything with the same methodology. That's how we know that it's closer to the ultimate truth than the geocenteic model (no absolutes in science).
It's the same thing as Neutonian physics explaining reality at our scale, but not at either microscopic or macroscopic levels; it's still useful (because it's so simple) but we know there is a more correct model, even though we don't yet know what it is.
I'll ask again: why can I fly either east or west from Toronto and end up in Rome. This should be flat earth 101. No one has ever answered that -- except to say 'oh, of course we have, you're just stupid'.
In fact, the Greek philosopher Pythagoras was the first to come up with the concept of a spherical Earth back in the 6th century BCE. Pythagoras’s idea was based on his observations of the moon during a lunar eclipse. He noticed that the shadow cast by the Earth on the moon was always round, no matter what part of the planet was facing the moon.
But it wasn’t until about 200 years later that another Greek scholar, Eratosthenes, came up with a way to actually measure the circumference of the Earth.
Eratosthenes was the chief librarian at the Library of Alexandria in Egypt.
He knew that at noon on the summer solstice, the sun was directly overhead at the city of Syene (now called Aswan). But he also knew that in Alexandria, about 800 kilometers to the north, the sun was not directly overhead at that same time.
By measuring the angle of the sun at Alexandria, and knowing the distance between the two cities, Eratosthenes was able to calculate that the circumference of the Earth must be about 250,000 stadia. (Astadia was a unit of measurement used by the Greeks.
There is some debate about how long one stadia actually was, but estimates range from 160 to 210 meters. This would put the circumference of the Earth at anywhere from 40,000 to 50,000 kilometers.)
This was an amazingly accurate estimate, considering that Eratosthenes came up with it more than 2,000 years ago! And he didn’t even have access to modern instruments or technology.
I went to the Athens museum to see this artifact.
I think it was known then it was a calendar of some type.
..... geocentric doesn't mean flat earth
It can be flat earth if they were to decide on a model. But it could equally be a space is real but everything circles the earth model.....
Just saying.
well... your kinda right, they're all over the place
That's fine; it's easy to explain all sorts of celestial phenomenon using the geocentric model. The problem is that there's no single way to explain all observable phenomenon.
So you can, for example, explain and even predict the moons movement, but the same methods can't predict how stars move, hence the idea of 12+ celestial spheres which the stars are attached to. By the same token, the methods of predicting stars geocentrically can't explain the moon or sun.
The heliocentric model explains everything with the same methodology. That's how we know that it's closer to the ultimate truth than the geocenteic model (no absolutes in science).
It's the same thing as Neutonian physics explaining reality at our scale, but not at either microscopic or macroscopic levels; it's still useful (because it's so simple) but we know there is a more correct model, even though we don't yet know what it is.
I do wonder if geocentricity and a round earth are not mutually exclusive.
I'll ask again: why can I fly either east or west from Toronto and end up in Rome. This should be flat earth 101. No one has ever answered that -- except to say 'oh, of course we have, you're just stupid'.
Flat earthers are so belligerent! But, to be honest, the ones that make it to interviews are quite reasonable.
I watched the video. It's... well... you do you!
The ancient Greeks figured out the Earth was round and even calculated the diameter pretty accurately.
https://magnifymind.com/who-discovered-the-earth-is-round/
no one worth listening too thought any differently, the people posting that kind of shit are muddying the ancient history waters
the history of our peoples is all but forgotten,