My perspective is that the world is not spherical the way we are taught. Not that the earth is flat. You are simply misunderstanding because you insanely assume you know what the person’s perspective is BEFORE you learn about it. That’s stupid, AND crazy. You aren’t a psychic and your perception of the “other side’s” position came through advertising and assumption instead of research :(
Ask some questions!
SO ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTIONS IF YOU’RE NOT A BOT.
I could answer the questions the same way you “asked” them, by copypasta. But what would be the point? I am interested in earnest discussion, not wasting time. If you actually want an answer to your question(s) and are not merely disingenuously pretending to “ask” them to “humiliate and expose paid shills” - then let’s start with your most important question first. What is it?
Your hostility is completely unreasonable and not the perspective of any sort of learned person. You have been encouraged to be hostile through advertising... That misplaced and counterproductive hostility is only a defense mechanism to avoid ever earnestly discussing :(
Truth is not a matter of opinion.
If only it were so simple. I agree that objective truth exists, and can possibly be obtained. However most of the time people talk about “truth” they are talking about flawed (religious) belief, and are wrong/incorrect. In any case, we aren’t talking about truth - we are talking about fact. Almost all facts have a half-life to them, and facts are not as reliable as objective truth (which is illusive and hard, if not impossible, to fully verify). Facts are not truth, and you would do well to keep that distinction in mind.
No one cares
I’m not talking to everyone or “no one” - I am talking to you! It is important that you care to have an earnest discussion and to understand. Otherwise you can’t and won’t ever do, or be able to do, so. If you can’t discuss differing viewpoints, you can’t ever learn about them. I think this is what OP meant by “not ready”. You don’t care, and you aren’t willing to learn or evaluate as a result. But you could reconsider anytime, and if you don’t - you will only continue to insulate yourself from new ideas.
Many of the “facts” we have been taught are untrue. Do you disagree? Every fact we have been taught is “truth” handed from god themselves? People are never wrong? This seems to be your position...
answer the questions
It would be a waste of time if you aren’t ACTUALLY asking them and earnestly interested to explore the answers. But for an illustrative example of what i mean, why don’t you choose the most important question to begin discussing!
My perspective is that the world is not spherical the way we are taught.
Your perspective is objectively incorrect.
You are simply misunderstanding
Irony.
because you insanely assume
How dare I assume exactly what you said. So crazy!
BEFORE you learn about it
After.
You aren’t a psychic
You aren’t literate.
I could answer the questions the same way you “asked” them, by copypasta. But what would be the point?
Proving your own claims, paid shill.
I am interested in earnest discussion
As proven by the fact that you refuse to engage in it.
not wasting time
So stop replying forever. Prove your claim.
then let’s start with your most important question first. What is it?
The first one in the list. Eat shit, paid shill.
Your hostility is completely unreasonable
You’re paid to post lies here to cover up the truth. You deserve death in real life for this. My hostility is completely reasonable when your goal is the genocide of my entire race.
You have been encouraged to be hostile through advertising
Patent falsehood.
That misplaced and counterproductive
Directed at the persons responsible for my genocide, so nah.
only a defense mechanism to avoid ever earnestly discussing
Said the subhuman paid shill who refuses to earnestly discuss.
If only it were so simple.
It literally is. Off yourself, relativist.
However most of the time
I literally couldn’t care less. No one is discussing this. Keep your strawmen to yourself.
we aren’t talking about truth - we are talking about fact
Off yourself. You’re not human. Humans don’t behave this way.
I’m not talking to everyone or “no one” - I am talking to you!
No, you’re not.
You don’t care
More than you, about your own claimed beliefs, apparently.
Can you demonstrate that, objectively? If so, please do so!
If i am incorrect, i should like to know it and know how to determine it for myself. How about yourself?
Irony
Your view of my perspective and the OP’s is entirely fictional / contrived / imagined / assumed. The reason you don’t, and can’t, know what it is (and are misunderstanding as a result) - is because you haven’t bothered to learn what the perspective is BEFORE launching into emotional attack :(
You’re paid to post lies here to cover up the truth
No, i’m not. But if i were, what “truth” would i be covering up?
The true purpose of the heavily funded flat earth psyop is to STOP discussion or evaluation of this important subject. It has been so successful, that now it is used as a well poisoner - but that is a “fringe benefit”.
My hostility is completely reasonable when your goal is the genocide of my entire race.
That is a crazy “equivalence”. Do you really think that discussing or merely questioning the true shape of the world is the same as wanting to “genocide your race”? Don’t be silly. Direct the hostility where it is appropriate (like to people trying to genocide you or your people/family/community)!
No, you’re not.
Well, i’m trying to anyway! If we both try to communicate earnestly we have a good shot at succeeding. If you continue to not want to do that, i can’t and won’t stop you.
Anyhow, let’s try to earnestly discuss from here on out?
The first one in the list
Fair enough.
Why can everyone south of the equator see the exact same stars rotating in the same direction around the same fixed central point in the sky due south of them if they’re supposedly all looking in different directions?
Likely for the same reason we can north of the equator.
Fundamentally, looking for the shape of the world by studying in the opposite direction of it (the sky) is unscientific and stupid.
The sky and the lights in it do what they do, and the earth is whatever shape it is. The silly belief that they must be linked is just a bias encouraged by astronomy.
Ingrained in this question is circular logic.
Premise : The world is spherical.
Observation : The stars appear to move above our heads similarly north and south of the equator.
Conclusion : The world must be spherical.
The sky has nothing to do with the shape of the world.
My perspective is that the world is not spherical the way we are taught. Not that the earth is flat. You are simply misunderstanding because you insanely assume you know what the person’s perspective is BEFORE you learn about it. That’s stupid, AND crazy. You aren’t a psychic and your perception of the “other side’s” position came through advertising and assumption instead of research :(
Ask some questions!
I could answer the questions the same way you “asked” them, by copypasta. But what would be the point? I am interested in earnest discussion, not wasting time. If you actually want an answer to your question(s) and are not merely disingenuously pretending to “ask” them to “humiliate and expose paid shills” - then let’s start with your most important question first. What is it?
Your hostility is completely unreasonable and not the perspective of any sort of learned person. You have been encouraged to be hostile through advertising... That misplaced and counterproductive hostility is only a defense mechanism to avoid ever earnestly discussing :(
If only it were so simple. I agree that objective truth exists, and can possibly be obtained. However most of the time people talk about “truth” they are talking about flawed (religious) belief, and are wrong/incorrect. In any case, we aren’t talking about truth - we are talking about fact. Almost all facts have a half-life to them, and facts are not as reliable as objective truth (which is illusive and hard, if not impossible, to fully verify). Facts are not truth, and you would do well to keep that distinction in mind.
I’m not talking to everyone or “no one” - I am talking to you! It is important that you care to have an earnest discussion and to understand. Otherwise you can’t and won’t ever do, or be able to do, so. If you can’t discuss differing viewpoints, you can’t ever learn about them. I think this is what OP meant by “not ready”. You don’t care, and you aren’t willing to learn or evaluate as a result. But you could reconsider anytime, and if you don’t - you will only continue to insulate yourself from new ideas.
Many of the “facts” we have been taught are untrue. Do you disagree? Every fact we have been taught is “truth” handed from god themselves? People are never wrong? This seems to be your position...
It would be a waste of time if you aren’t ACTUALLY asking them and earnestly interested to explore the answers. But for an illustrative example of what i mean, why don’t you choose the most important question to begin discussing!
Your perspective is objectively incorrect.
Irony.
How dare I assume exactly what you said. So crazy!
After.
You aren’t literate.
Proving your own claims, paid shill.
As proven by the fact that you refuse to engage in it.
So stop replying forever. Prove your claim.
The first one in the list. Eat shit, paid shill.
You’re paid to post lies here to cover up the truth. You deserve death in real life for this. My hostility is completely reasonable when your goal is the genocide of my entire race.
Patent falsehood.
Directed at the persons responsible for my genocide, so nah.
Said the subhuman paid shill who refuses to earnestly discuss.
It literally is. Off yourself, relativist.
I literally couldn’t care less. No one is discussing this. Keep your strawmen to yourself.
Off yourself. You’re not human. Humans don’t behave this way.
No, you’re not.
More than you, about your own claimed beliefs, apparently.
Beat your wife somewhere else.
Can you demonstrate that, objectively? If so, please do so!
If i am incorrect, i should like to know it and know how to determine it for myself. How about yourself?
Your view of my perspective and the OP’s is entirely fictional / contrived / imagined / assumed. The reason you don’t, and can’t, know what it is (and are misunderstanding as a result) - is because you haven’t bothered to learn what the perspective is BEFORE launching into emotional attack :(
No, i’m not. But if i were, what “truth” would i be covering up?
The true purpose of the heavily funded flat earth psyop is to STOP discussion or evaluation of this important subject. It has been so successful, that now it is used as a well poisoner - but that is a “fringe benefit”.
That is a crazy “equivalence”. Do you really think that discussing or merely questioning the true shape of the world is the same as wanting to “genocide your race”? Don’t be silly. Direct the hostility where it is appropriate (like to people trying to genocide you or your people/family/community)!
Well, i’m trying to anyway! If we both try to communicate earnestly we have a good shot at succeeding. If you continue to not want to do that, i can’t and won’t stop you.
Anyhow, let’s try to earnestly discuss from here on out?
Fair enough.
Likely for the same reason we can north of the equator.
Fundamentally, looking for the shape of the world by studying in the opposite direction of it (the sky) is unscientific and stupid.
The sky and the lights in it do what they do, and the earth is whatever shape it is. The silly belief that they must be linked is just a bias encouraged by astronomy.
Ingrained in this question is circular logic.
Premise : The world is spherical.
Observation : The stars appear to move above our heads similarly north and south of the equator.
Conclusion : The world must be spherical.
The sky has nothing to do with the shape of the world.