I see constant, verifiable bits of evidence that disprove each model, yet I see a constant stream of diatribes from each side… sound familiar? Divide and conquer. It's possible that both models are false, completely.
Nobody can deny the fake footage from the ISS, the absolutely fake moon landing, the fake Tesla Roadster in space, the lasers across 20 mile stretches, the zoom ends on boats that should be completely behind the horizon, etc.
And then on the flipside, nobody can deny things like the celestial poles (a post today), the ability to grab a telescope in view another planet, etc.
It's possible we are in a physical simulation of some kind. I think pretending that we know the answer for sure, one way or another, based on bullshit and lies fed to us by the television is just a LARP.
Thoughts?
Lets astral project and see whats up?
Pretty sure both U.S. and Russia faked some shit in a desperate effort to make each other think they were more ahead in the race than either really was. Not necessarily a fun conspiracy, just cold war bluffing.
Doesn't explain current day fakeries as described in OP.
The whole scenario is just a SQUIRREL.
Flat/round earth is a nothing burger in the grand scheme of life.
We have more important pressing matters to be concerned with.
I agree somewhat... unless we really are in somebody's petri dish.
Buy that before flat earth.
Maybe we are an experiment that went horribly wrong?
"Your tiny squirrel drama"
YOU posted this distracting nonsense, not me.
"IF the earth is flat..."
Tell me you're not convinced by using IF.
See what I mean?
You are distracted and confused.
Believe the earth is flat and leave it at that.
Flat/round earth won't matter when WWIII goes kinetic.
See what I mean?
Debunkers really don't touch why NASA fakes things, do they?
As for the divide and conquer...here's a good quote on historical "flat earth"...
"The myth that people once believed the earth was flat was created by authors such as Draper and Dickson in order to exaggerate the conflict between religion and science." from here
Which is kinda odd, since many of the real scientists were religious back in the day. They still knew that science is limited in many respects as to answering very fundamental questions (like why we exist as you alluded to). But if you can figure out why you exist, you can figure out why everything exists. :)
Why can’t one think that NASA lies AND the Earth is not flat?
Narrative and counter narrative are normally both lies. There are more than two options.
I didn't say one couldn't think that. One can think whatever they want.
I really didn't say anything that warrants that question though. Pretty strange.
And if there is "more than two options", why are you foaming at the mouth to "prove" one?
“Debunkers really don't touch why NASA fakes things, do they?”
Why do they have to? Just because one thinks the flat Earth model is wrong does not mean they think NASA never lies.
“why are you foaming at the mouth to "prove" one?”
When did I ever do that? I never once tried to “prove” one. I simply pointed out that the existence to two celestial poles DISPROVES the flat Earth model. And it does.
So ok, why are you foaming at the mouth to disprove flat earth?
Seems like quite the waste of time.
Why are you foaming at the mouth to argue with me? Seems like a waste of time.
And in none of my comments did I “foam at the mouth.”
I didn’t name call, belittle, use sarcasm, or profanity. Even though I was the recipient of such. I was respectful to everyone who responded. I respectfully disagreed with several and stated my position.
Where did I argue with you?
So no, I wasn't wasting my time.
And reposting virtually the same comment over and over is foaming at the mouth to me.
So tell me then, why does NASA need to lie?
I was responding to deferent people making similar points. The replies are going to similar. But every reply was respectful.
This is my opinion, but I think NASA lies because they know and are capable of so much less than they claim.
Can you tell me, how 2, and only 2, celestial poles, that are always consistently revolving around the same points regardless of viewing point on Earth fits into the flat Earth theory?
Nasa, and the entire NWO establishment, fake space in order to hide the nature of our creation and existence. Not all flat earthers agree, and it is speculation since there are many things difficult or impossible to verify, but I think Biblical cosmology seems to be correct. This means we live on a Flat stationary earth with the firmament and heavens above. Some version of this was a common view worldwide until a century ago. Flat earth was taught in many US school until the rockafellers altered our curriculum to build "a nation of workers, not thinkers." In my view the reason they do it is to hide our creator and make atheism plausible. If people knew we lived on a flat domed earth you could no longer find the big bang theory or evolutionary theory possible. Atheists don't want to admit this, but humans are religious no matter what, if you don't believe in God you will find some substitute for it, and I believe this makes populations easier to control. For the religious a spinning ball insignificant earth seriously compromises their faith and understanding of God, and also makes them easier to control. I believe this is ultimately a plot by Satan to pull people away from God and Nasa is full of Satanists and the top, and useful idiots under them.
The thing that is the lynchpin for me (regardless of what the Earth is) is the behavior of occultists.
They have an active interest in the "heavens" precisely because they are prohibited from it.
Many are also UFO enthusiasts (the Reddit community HighStrangeness comes to mind). But why would aliens want to do anything with liars and deceivers?
And that's also why NASA has the fakery. They know they are prohibited access.
One factoid that encompasses this conspiracy is the Denver Airport. Not the murals, the keypad and keystone. Specifically Martin Marietta Aeronautics....pretty silly to out yourself as a Masonic/Satanic organization.
Never noticed before, but the date for the keystone is March 19, 1994. Those digits add up to 33. Big surprise.
I was fascinated by ufos and alien related content, especially since the US military had slowly been admitting to have documented interactions with ufos. I have since come to believe it's all a psyop that not only backs the globe deception, but sets up humanity to be ruled by a one world government in the future. I don't know if they will stage aliens to be enemies or saviors, but either way I think we are being primed for this outcome. Aliens are real in the sense that humans interacted with demonic entities that they simply perceived as sci-fi aliens. Even many in the UFO community believe aliens to be interdementional, which is just a sci-fi way of saying demon. This would explain why these entities would be involved with our lying psychopathic elite, because Satan's forces are trying to decieve humanity.
Have you ever checked out William 'bill' Cooper? He was involved with navy/ufo intel, and predicted 9/11. Before he was murdered for calling out 9/11, he finally said he believed aliens were actually a satanic deception after spending decades falling for it.
One other interesting proof, warner von brauns female assistant went on record saying that he told her many times that the NWO would finally be ushered in by a fake alien invasion. Though the demons and much of the tech will be real.
I have heard Bill Cooper, yes.
And now that I think of it, did you see the post Crouching Emoji, Hidden Demon? Quite excellent, and even got a few others to read it as well.
I bring this up because perhaps you hit upon something very interesting...
So these aliens are actually interdimensional demons.
Well, how do you conjure up a demon? By drawing a decidedly two dimensional sigil.
Perhaps they are interdimensional in the sense that they can enter the 3D world, but not without assistance.
And since they are lower vibration and all, it would make sense that they belong to a lower dimension.
https://communities.win/c/HollowEarth
I agree the curve is not present, at least not in the hundreds of experiments I've seen. But there are also some things we can't explain, like the stars circling above when near Antarctica, etc. I just want to know how we can rectify both of these things in the same model.
Interesting, thanks. What it appears that he is illustrating is actually pretty intuitive, but I couldn't really hear anything he was saying because the audio sounded like it was being filmed in a waterfall. I think maybe that was a reupload of the original.
I wouldn't call myself a Normie. I don't even have a TV. I've consumed basically nothing but conspiracy content since the mid-2000s, and flat earth content since 2010-ish. I've watched every video from taboo conspiracy and even watch the controlled ops like Jeranism, etc. I just can't hear the audio in this video because it sounds like somebody ran it through some kind of filter to make a bunch of white noise over top the voice. Skip a few minutes into the video when he starts doing the demo on his modeling software. You'll hear it.
Tight thanks I'll check him out. And yeah that's my thinking also (re: only knowing what we can see).
I seek out more evidence constantly, because it's the most interesting thing imaginable, if truly proven. The idea that it's possible we could be in a system that is vastly different than what everyone believes is just mind-blowing. I mean, in the abstract sense, this is already true (fake economy, fake elections, etc.), but trying to imagine what the world would be like if there was actually a full awakening of basically everyone - this would be bigger than an Independence Day level alien invasion - but only truly indisputable proof of exactly how it all works (not just that there is no curve or some other really valuable yet technically circumstantial evidence, but something much more palpable, like a close up high resolution video of the moon from a large hobby rocket (and it's like a digital light source, etc.).
Btw I was able to hear him over the white noise a lot better with headphones tonight.
Holy shinto btw, finished the video - hyper interesting. If you happen to come across a higher res / fidelity version of this, please let me know (for sharing with friends).