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Debunking the flat Earth model. (media.scored.co)
posted 3 years ago by Turdsoup 3 years ago by Turdsoup +24 / -9
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– Turdsoup [S] 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

IF his explanation is true, THEN we would expect to see different “celestial poles” (what we would perceive as such anyway) circling different locations as our perspective changes. But regardless of your location in the southern hemisphere, the southern celestial pole is alway in the same location (compared to the stars around it).

IF his explanation is true, THEN the center of the celestial pole would converge on the horizon at the point our field of vision ends, just like the SUN’s rays do in his example. In other words, we wouldn’t see full circles up in the sky, we would see half circles at the horizon. But we don’t see that. What we do see… the farther south you go, the higher the south celestial pole gets in the sky. The farther north you go, the higher the north celestial pole gets in the sky… but they both ALWAYS revolve around the same point regardless.

Northern celestial pole time-lapse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV8PVzPZcBk

Southern celestial pole time-lapse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w3n-s9i7WQ

Equator celestial time-lapse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPtVG_pVNHI

ANYWHERE on the Northern Hemisphere (N. American to Russia) you can see the northern celestial pole and the stars ALWAYS revolve around the same point, the North Star.

ANYWHERE on the Southern Hemisphere (S. America to Australia) you can see the southern celestial pole and the stars ALWAYS revolve around the same point, that just so happens to not have a star.

These results NEVER vary and anyone can recreate the results.

The existence of 2, and only 2, celestial poles, that are always consistent, disproves the flat Earth theory.

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– Allas8 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It is the same stars, only different are how far away you are from them. The farther away you are, the lower in the sky the most distant stars will appear from you. It is explained at the 1829 mark. He explains exactly why we would see full circles, no matter your geographical location, like you asked. It is a anti rotation, the further away you get, the smaller the circle will appear in the sky. So the further south you get, the higher the circles will get, as you get closer to them, that is how perspective works.

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– Turdsoup [S] -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

Whether you are in South America, South Africa, or Australia… if you take a time-lapse photo of the stars at night, you will see the Southern Celestial Pole. In ALL THREE locations, EVERY NIGHT. In all three places, the stars will be revolving around the same point. No matter what latitude you are at in the Southern Hemisphere.

His explanation does not come close to explaining that.

Why can’t we see the Southern Celestial Pole in the northern hemisphere? By his explanation, we should be able to see it at any location (or at least some type of southern circular movement).

Why is the Equator (at ANY point) the only latitude we can see both circles? )))II((( as seen in the Equator time lapse.

Equator celestial time-lapse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPtVG_pVNHI

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– Allas8 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

South America, South Africa, or Australia, it is all the same latitude. As long as you are on the same latitude, you will see the same stars circles in the sky, just at different time in the night. Same way that the sun rise and sets in two different location on earth.

We can not see the Southern Celestial Pole in the northern hemisphere, as it is to far away, and would be below the horizon. He says that at about 6000 miles, stars appear parallel to the horizon, that is due to how perspective works, explained at this point 1240.

From that point on until about the 15:24 mark, he continues to explain why you can see both circles at the Equators. It is all due to how perspective works, as the north star stands stationary in the sky, always, and as you see stars that are further then 6000 miles away, they would be below the horizon. Once you get to the Equator, you are watching the north star sideways, so your hole view of the circle that the stars are making, is tipped, sideways.

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– Turdsoup [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

“South America, South Africa, or Australia, it is all the same latitude. As long as you are on the same latitude, you will see the same stars circles in the sky, just at different time in the night.”

At ANY latitude line south of the Equator you will see the Southern Celestial Pole… EVERY night. Look it up. Test it. If you could find ONE instance where the Southern Celestial Pole (SCP) revolves around any other point you will prove me wrong. If you CAN’T find an example of that or demonstrate it, wouldn’t that mean I am right?

“We can not see the Southern Celestial Pole in the northern hemisphere, as it is to far away, and would be below the horizon.”

I thought both of you said the SCP was the result of perspective, not an actual point. IF that was the case, THEN we would see the stars revolving to the south too… at any latitude. By saying the SCP can disappear below the horizon, you are ADMITTING that the SCP is a tangible spot and not just a spot from our perspective.

“as the north star stands stationary in the sky, always”

The North Star is not perfectly centered. It also circles slightly, as seen in the time-lapse video I sent. The North Star also changes every so often.

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