Debunking the flat Earth model.
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“South America, South Africa, or Australia, it is all the same latitude. As long as you are on the same latitude, you will see the same stars circles in the sky, just at different time in the night.”
At ANY latitude line south of the Equator you will see the Southern Celestial Pole… EVERY night. Look it up. Test it. If you could find ONE instance where the Southern Celestial Pole (SCP) revolves around any other point you will prove me wrong. If you CAN’T find an example of that or demonstrate it, wouldn’t that mean I am right?
“We can not see the Southern Celestial Pole in the northern hemisphere, as it is to far away, and would be below the horizon.”
I thought both of you said the SCP was the result of perspective, not an actual point. IF that was the case, THEN we would see the stars revolving to the south too… at any latitude. By saying the SCP can disappear below the horizon, you are ADMITTING that the SCP is a tangible spot and not just a spot from our perspective.
“as the north star stands stationary in the sky, always”
The North Star is not perfectly centered. It also circles slightly, as seen in the time-lapse video I sent. The North Star also changes every so often.
The SCO revolves around the North star. It is always going to revolve around the North star, no matter where on earth you see it from. The circle it makes get smaller the further away you get, that is due to how perspective works.
Same when the sun disappear beyond the horizon, it is still above our flat earth, it is just to far away for us to see it. As that is how perspective works. When a star reaches 6000 miles away, we are looking at it in a below 1° angel, and our view of it is blocked by the horizon.
What you are saying is demonstrably wrong.
The stars around the SCP are not random stars that change shape or size. They are well known. The SCP is in the constellation of Octans. Octans is visible from ANY point in the southern hemisphere. When you get north of the Equator you can not see it anymore.
The constellation Octans is what makes up the inner circles in time-lapses of the SCP. Octans DOES NOT get smaller and smaller the farther north you go until it is imperceptible, as you claim.
The North Celestial Pole is the same way. You can view the North Star from anywhere from the Northern Hemisphere. Once you go south of the Equator, you can no longer view it.
You can’t find any star that is north of the North Star, because all other stars in the Northern Hemisphere revolve around it. The stars that are on the “north” side of the North Star will eventually be on the south side as they revolve. That is how we know it is the northernmost star.
No star is south of the SCP, because all stars in the Southern Hemisphere revolve around it. Any star you see on the “south” side of the SCP will eventually be on the north side as it revolves. That is how we know it is the southernmost star.
Regardless of whether you believe in flat Earth or globe Earth… the NCP and SCP are the ONLY two celestial poles visible from anywhere on Earth. The poles NEVER revolve around any other point REGARDLESS of our perception on earth. Both poles function IDENTICALLY. There is NO fundamental difference between the NCP and SCP when it comes to their movements or how we perceive them from Earth. At the Equator you can view both Celestial Poles at the horizon north and south of you. The SCP is not just an illusion caused by perception. It is a tangible, consistent, measurable, testable, provable point in space… just like the North Star.
No matter how far south you go, you will NEVER find a star south of the SCP. No matter how north you go, you will NEVER find a star north of the NCP.
Prove me wrong, find ONE star that is south of the SCP.
I never claimed there are stars south of SCP, I am claiming it is the most southern circle around the North star. The further south you get, the higher up on the horizon it will appear, that is due to how perspective works, as you get closer and closer to the most southern stars.
So, you admit there is a northernmost point AND a southernmost point in viewable space. And all the stars revolve around these points… Interesting.