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posted 3 years ago by pkvi 3 years ago by pkvi +7 / -2
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– the-new-style 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Not everyone working in Machine Learning thinks General AI is even theoretically possible, let alone imminent. Like myself, some think machines will never win the Imitation Game (aka The Turing Test).

The animal brain is not clockwork.

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– the-new-style 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

There's an 1983 paper, The Ironies of Automation

Anyway, the point being that if humans to not master the easy and medium parts of a system, they can never understand the difficult parts.

An example would be the stupid idea that a human can sit in a car and take over when the alarm sounds because the car doesn't understand what's happening. Unless the human was paying total attention then it is a hopeless situation, he does not have a feel for the road conditions, was not observing the environment, is not "warmed up" to operate the controls and needs to do all those things because the car is about to crash!

I have experienced a similar sensation myself, turning the cruise control off as I leave the motorway I always take a moment to reacquaint myself with the position of the pedals (we have 3 of course, with a clutch, not automatics) and give the brakes a squeeze before I need them at the intersection I am speeding towards.

Same goes in a factory control environment, unless you have solved the easy problems a sudden requirement to avoid disaster will be hopeless.

But this was all anticipated by E.M. Forster in 1909 in his short story The Machine Stops which was written as a counter to the hubris of the H.G. Wells type techno utopians.

You might also enjoy The Technological Society by Jaques Ellul (1963) although that is more in-depth. It was Ted Kaczynski's bible (according to his brother) and is a required reading for those who wish to call themselves Neo-Luddites.

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– the-new-style 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

All I want is a toilet that wont flush unless the lid is down.

Ellul's premise is that we are going down a path of deskilling where optimisation of the process is the goal and humans have become prisoners of the machines under the weight of consumption, which distracts us from the essence of humanity.

A bit of a black pill for me, as I specialise in process optimisation.

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– the-new-style 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

yeah, reduce aerosolization

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– Iknowitsu -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

More spam.

This guy is fake.

Not real.

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– Oldmancountry17 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

What makes you say that? Dudes been here for a while and you never bitched? You think he got podded one night in his sleep or he is just a weird program?

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– Iknowitsu -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

Good question. Couldn’t tell you, tbh.

I just know he’s one of several accounts pushing the same shit, in the same way, around the same themes.

Might have just not noticed it before. He might have been waiting before pushing those themes. That’s what I would do if I were running a professional op—wouldn’t you?

Then they flood the sub. Putting filler content between thematic hate posts. Occasionally alts are used to generate artificial conversations, all in line w the same themes.

All coincidentally lining up with dnc propaganda efforts to paint anonymous platforms as dangerous havens of hate and white supremacy.

Can’t really ignore that kind of a pattern of communication when you can see it.

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– DT990P 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You can’t talk about that stuff because the dnc doesn’t like it

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– Iknowitsu 0 points 3 years ago +2 / -2

Pathetic attempt to gaslight.

The dnc doesn’t give a shit about that stuff because they’re knowingly over representing it.

There isn’t a thriving white supremacy movement. It doesn’t exist. It’s complete bs.

Just dipshits like you participating in astroturfing.

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– DT990P 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You’re suggesting we self-censor ourselves to stop the dnc from pointing at us and calling us Nazis/facists/racists w/e. But that just gives them more power over us. Also news flash, it doesn’t matter how extreme or milk toast you are if you disagree with them they’ll give you one of those labels anyways.

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