Well, comparing the train to the aircraft is the big difference as the train is still physically attached to the spinning object
When the helicopter or hot air balloon or bird takes off from the ground, they are no longer attached to the spinning object and so whatever lateral momentum they had from the spin of that object will rapidly diminish as time elapses
Similar example is people use the “throw a baseball up in the air standing on the back of a moving pick up truck”
The baseball will initially move laterally at the same speed as the truck but immediately and quickly slowing down as the atmosphere resists the lateral movement
Comparing this to an aircraft that flies in any direction it pleases with no consequential effect from the supposed spin of the earth
Have you ever questioned the Coriolis effect? They tell us the snipers bullet must account for the spin of the earth but why doesn’t this apply to any other airborne object
Surely if the tiny bullet travelling as fast as a speeding bullet has to account for the spin then everything else would, too?
Bullets can’t course-correct mid-flight by burning fuel dude. That’s what most of your “problems” reduce to: burning fuel to overcome naturally present forces
When the ballon takes off it has that X-component already present in its velocity. Just think about what you’re saying dude.... you are saying that if you shoot a gun to the East, it will behave totally differently than if you shoot it to the West. Does that line up with your experiences?
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Are you seriously suggesting that insects don’t “burn” their equivalent of “fuel”? Have you heard of this thing called “chemical potential energy”?
When the helicopter or hot air balloon or bird takes off from the ground, they are no longer attached to the spinning object and so whatever lateral momentum they had from the spin of that object will rapidly diminish as time elapses
The falling object is not attached to the train so why does it not move at the same speed in the opposite direction?
Launch a mini drone in a train and let it hover. By your logic, it should move in the opposite direction of the moving train. Why doesn't it?
are you trying to tell me that if i launch a drone in the air to hover above while im in a moving vehicle, you think it'll stay directly overhead without any movement required on the drones part?
If you turn on a drone in a moving vehicle like a train and it is not outside of the windows (ie....wind) yes. ...if balanced and calibrated it will hover.....just like the helicopter example.....
So how, do you explain this? The drone is not physically connected to the train so why does it not move in the opposite direction of where the train is moving?
Well, comparing the train to the aircraft is the big difference as the train is still physically attached to the spinning object
When the helicopter or hot air balloon or bird takes off from the ground, they are no longer attached to the spinning object and so whatever lateral momentum they had from the spin of that object will rapidly diminish as time elapses
Similar example is people use the “throw a baseball up in the air standing on the back of a moving pick up truck”
The baseball will initially move laterally at the same speed as the truck but immediately and quickly slowing down as the atmosphere resists the lateral movement
Comparing this to an aircraft that flies in any direction it pleases with no consequential effect from the supposed spin of the earth
Have you ever questioned the Coriolis effect? They tell us the snipers bullet must account for the spin of the earth but why doesn’t this apply to any other airborne object
Surely if the tiny bullet travelling as fast as a speeding bullet has to account for the spin then everything else would, too?
Bullets can’t course-correct mid-flight by burning fuel dude. That’s what most of your “problems” reduce to: burning fuel to overcome naturally present forces
how much fuel does a hot air balloon need to burn to counteract a 1600km/h spin?
or a bird
or an insect
When the ballon takes off it has that X-component already present in its velocity. Just think about what you’re saying dude.... you are saying that if you shoot a gun to the East, it will behave totally differently than if you shoot it to the West. Does that line up with your experiences?
Edit4yourEdit:
Are you seriously suggesting that insects don’t “burn” their equivalent of “fuel”? Have you heard of this thing called “chemical potential energy”?
Did you miss the part about 1,600 km/h
no im saying that it won't matter because there is no spin
that x component rapidly diminishes as soon as the hot air balloon leaves the ground
why would the momentum continue if the balloon is no longer attached to the spinning object
The falling object is not attached to the train so why does it not move at the same speed in the opposite direction?
Launch a mini drone in a train and let it hover. By your logic, it should move in the opposite direction of the moving train. Why doesn't it?
are you trying to tell me that if i launch a drone in the air to hover above while im in a moving vehicle, you think it'll stay directly overhead without any movement required on the drones part?
If you turn on a drone in a moving vehicle like a train and it is not outside of the windows (ie....wind) yes. ...if balanced and calibrated it will hover.....just like the helicopter example.....
In a train, yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnXf7EJ8Qvc
Here you go.
So how, do you explain this? The drone is not physically connected to the train so why does it not move in the opposite direction of where the train is moving?
At 13 seconds, the pilot tries moving the drone down and up. When it reaches its lowest point, it accelerate backward, before moving upward.