Now, in your example of making the certified module complete with a microphone and communication to 5G/4G, literally what is complicated about also having a miniature network to communicate with nearby devices and negotiate which one will actually communicate with 4G/5G. LOL. It's not complicated at all if you're going to that length anyway.
I still don't know any reliable mesh or equivalent nodes networks based even on standard modules from single manufacturer. If you know one, please name it, I'm interested in such things a lot. Everything I tried worked awfully. Things are not as simple as appeared to be if you have to automatically connect different devices into reliable network. And you have to do it without any human control and interference.
I thought the goal was to target more conscious people who aren't willing to buy smart home devices to begin with. Now you're relying on everyone being surveilled to willingly by a bluetooth compatible tea kettle? LOL
You can't target conscious people with implementing 5G. They don't use all that BigBrother crap, including stupid IOS/Android based smartphones.
It is about full, 24/7 control on the sheeple they don't know about. You can't do it with smartphone, because you need few times larger battery for 24/7 audio/video streaming. So, it is logical to use home appliances that permanently connected to the power grid and does not have any problems with power. Voice assistants not a solution too - even sheeple know that it is listening. Diswasher that is listening without knowledge of user is much better.
Yes, and before 5G came out, was there reliable equipment for a 5G network? Nope. But what you're supposing is that 5G is being implemented for surveillance. That is a monumental task. Coming up with a mesh network is minor compared to that.
video streaming.
This isn't happening. Even your version of events only includes a microphone discreetly hidden inside consumer electronics so even they don't know.
battery for 24/7 audio streaming
It's not bad. You don't stream the audio 24/7, you record it 24/7 and transmit it in packets alongside other data. Nobody would notice.
If it takes a meaningful amount of power, it would be noticed pretty readily even in electronics plugged into the wall.
Yes, and before 5G came out, was there reliable equipment for a 5G network? Nope.
Just like with 2G/3G/4G. What's wrong? New generations was build on the infrastructure of previous generation, that make things much simplier.
Coming up with a mesh network is minor compared to that.
Centralised network and mesh network is completely different beasts. In centralised network you have distinct master and slave devices. In mesh network there are no master who controls slave devices, so a problem of collision resolution arises. And it is more complex than resolving collisions in wired networks.
It's not bad. You don't stream the audio 24/7, you record it 24/7 and transmit it in packets alongside other data. Nobody would notice.
Your variant lack a feature of real-time surveillance on selected person.
If it takes a meaningful amount of power, it would be noticed pretty readily even in electronics plugged into the wall.
It is perfectly noticeable for the shitty phone battery, but
negligible in comparison to the average power consumption of home appliances.
You talk a lot like someone who knows a little, but wants it to seem like he knows a lot.
Mesh-type networks aren't all that uncommon. And the concept does not have unavoidable problems, there just isn't as much use for the technology as you'd think.
Off the top of my head, Z-Wave is a protocol for IoT devices that can form a mesh network to extend range. Also, electric meters often form a mesh network to communicate power readings back to the electric company.
Your variant lack a feature of real-time surveillance on selected person.
Nope, when you want that real-time surveillance, you just turn it on. Simple. And, per your comments, the real purpose of this isn't "real-time surveillance," it's the backlog to find incriminating shit when someone does something.
Negligible for an appliance
Yes, the average consumer wouldn't notice it. But there are enough consumers that use kill-a-watt style devices that they would notice appliances with a relatively large parasitic draw.
bluetooth
I'm not sure why I didn't call this out before... but why would a tea kettle or dishwasher, even a "smart" one have bluetooth? This shit's wi-fi.
Mesh-type networks aren't all that uncommon. And the concept does not have unavoidable problems, there just isn't as much use for the technology as you'd think.
I tried nearly everything - Z-Wave (not really mesh, it needs a controller), ZigBee mesh mode, Netsukuku, BATMAN and others. All of them show low bandwidth and high and unstable latency. And there always was some problems when nodes just disappear from network. Interference on working frequency often just ruined everything and network does not come back on its own. Name one that works reliably, fast and repair itself without intervention.
Nope, when you want that real-time surveillance, you just turn it on
Possible, yes. But still will be noticeable by phone user.
I'm not sure why I didn't call this out before... but why would a tea kettle or dishwasher, even a "smart" one have bluetooth? This shit's wi-fi.
Saw a lot of shit with Bluetooth. WiFi shit is much worse, you need not only app on the phone, but also a connection to the some "cloud service" in internet. And phone app is connecting to that cloud that will send a command to turn on your fucking kettle. IDK, but seems that here WiFi stuff is less popular.
I still don't know any reliable mesh or equivalent nodes networks based even on standard modules from single manufacturer. If you know one, please name it, I'm interested in such things a lot. Everything I tried worked awfully. Things are not as simple as appeared to be if you have to automatically connect different devices into reliable network. And you have to do it without any human control and interference.
You can't target conscious people with implementing 5G. They don't use all that BigBrother crap, including stupid IOS/Android based smartphones.
It is about full, 24/7 control on the sheeple they don't know about. You can't do it with smartphone, because you need few times larger battery for 24/7 audio/video streaming. So, it is logical to use home appliances that permanently connected to the power grid and does not have any problems with power. Voice assistants not a solution too - even sheeple know that it is listening. Diswasher that is listening without knowledge of user is much better.
Yes, and before 5G came out, was there reliable equipment for a 5G network? Nope. But what you're supposing is that 5G is being implemented for surveillance. That is a monumental task. Coming up with a mesh network is minor compared to that.
This isn't happening. Even your version of events only includes a microphone discreetly hidden inside consumer electronics so even they don't know.
It's not bad. You don't stream the audio 24/7, you record it 24/7 and transmit it in packets alongside other data. Nobody would notice.
If it takes a meaningful amount of power, it would be noticed pretty readily even in electronics plugged into the wall.
Just like with 2G/3G/4G. What's wrong? New generations was build on the infrastructure of previous generation, that make things much simplier.
Centralised network and mesh network is completely different beasts. In centralised network you have distinct master and slave devices. In mesh network there are no master who controls slave devices, so a problem of collision resolution arises. And it is more complex than resolving collisions in wired networks.
Your variant lack a feature of real-time surveillance on selected person.
It is perfectly noticeable for the shitty phone battery, but negligible in comparison to the average power consumption of home appliances.
You talk a lot like someone who knows a little, but wants it to seem like he knows a lot.
Mesh-type networks aren't all that uncommon. And the concept does not have unavoidable problems, there just isn't as much use for the technology as you'd think.
Off the top of my head, Z-Wave is a protocol for IoT devices that can form a mesh network to extend range. Also, electric meters often form a mesh network to communicate power readings back to the electric company.
Nope, when you want that real-time surveillance, you just turn it on. Simple. And, per your comments, the real purpose of this isn't "real-time surveillance," it's the backlog to find incriminating shit when someone does something.
Yes, the average consumer wouldn't notice it. But there are enough consumers that use kill-a-watt style devices that they would notice appliances with a relatively large parasitic draw.
I'm not sure why I didn't call this out before... but why would a tea kettle or dishwasher, even a "smart" one have bluetooth? This shit's wi-fi.
I tried nearly everything - Z-Wave (not really mesh, it needs a controller), ZigBee mesh mode, Netsukuku, BATMAN and others. All of them show low bandwidth and high and unstable latency. And there always was some problems when nodes just disappear from network. Interference on working frequency often just ruined everything and network does not come back on its own. Name one that works reliably, fast and repair itself without intervention.
Possible, yes. But still will be noticeable by phone user.
Saw a lot of shit with Bluetooth. WiFi shit is much worse, you need not only app on the phone, but also a connection to the some "cloud service" in internet. And phone app is connecting to that cloud that will send a command to turn on your fucking kettle. IDK, but seems that here WiFi stuff is less popular.