But no less complicated than implementing surveillance into every device.
That is not what complicated. To simplify example, let's limit with audio and assume that it is modern electric kettle, dishwasher and fringe with bluetooth module and fancy smartphone app. All of that devices permanently connected to power grid. So there are no problems with power. Every device have a board with MCU and Bluetooth module. Manufacturers use ready-to-use BT modules to avoid certification of every model in FCC and other local RF agencies. They just use already certified modules.
Now we need microphone. It is a tiny part that could be directly connected to device MCU or BT module. All you need to do - is to add a part and few trace to existing PCB design. Then, it just a matter of changing firmware to add audio processing to MCU or setting few registers in BT module to turn on audio inputs.
Now we need a permanent channel to BigBrother. It is not hard too. Since we use ready-to-use BT modules, we just replace them with pin-compatible BT+5G/4G modules.
And now, if we use BT+5G modules we are done. 5G have larger user capacity, so there should be no problems with additional cellular network users.
With 4G modules, we have 4 devices that demand channel to base station instead of one. 3 times more users. Cellular network will become out of capacity and smartphone users will be angry when they will not be able to do a call or connect to internet.
So, to avoid that we have to somehow negotiate between devices and choose one who will connect to cellular network and become a master. So, we need some special protocol, that will combine BT and 4G with negotiations, master selection, channel division, and so on. All that already implemented in the base of cellular protocols, but unuseable for 4G. And the most awful part - we have to make all that different modules and devices compatible and able to negotiate. When you have a cellular standard it is easy. You make the module, check against single testing base station and you are done. The same is with BT, WiFi, etc. But with new protocol, you have to be shure, that all devices will work in identical way. It took a decade to make all BT modules compatible with each other, but there still some problems. In case of open and known to user activity you have at least a way to debug and improve that stuff in real environment using user feedback. But in case of surveillance there is no way to get feedback, f.e. there is nobody present to tell manufacturer that electric kettle could not connect to dishwasher. And this is unresolveable in easy way.
And so on.
With 5G, you just move to next generation, adding demand for higher number of users and higher bandwidth. And you have all basic features borrowed from previous generation. In any case you will eventually replace 4G with something newer, just to utilise new bands, make it more power efficient, add some capabilities and so on.
With 5G work on the new generation is inevitable. With using 4G, you have to desing new system from the ground with doubtful perspectives to get it working in reasonable time due to the problems with finding bugs.
Now, in your example of making the certified module complete with a microphone and communication to 5G/4G, literally what is complicated about also having a miniature network to communicate with nearby devices and negotiate which one will actually communicate with 4G/5G. LOL. It's not complicated at all if you're going to that length anyway.
And, let's be real, I thought the goal was to target more conscious people who aren't willing to buy smart home devices to begin with. Now you're relying on everyone being surveilled to willingly by a bluetooth compatible tea kettle? LOL
Especially when you consider that everyone already has a phone on their person all the damn time. The people who are conscious enough to remove the battery or leave their phone behind when discussing incriminating matters are also conscious enough to not buy smart god damn tea kettles.
Now, in your example of making the certified module complete with a microphone and communication to 5G/4G, literally what is complicated about also having a miniature network to communicate with nearby devices and negotiate which one will actually communicate with 4G/5G. LOL. It's not complicated at all if you're going to that length anyway.
I still don't know any reliable mesh or equivalent nodes networks based even on standard modules from single manufacturer. If you know one, please name it, I'm interested in such things a lot. Everything I tried worked awfully. Things are not as simple as appeared to be if you have to automatically connect different devices into reliable network. And you have to do it without any human control and interference.
I thought the goal was to target more conscious people who aren't willing to buy smart home devices to begin with. Now you're relying on everyone being surveilled to willingly by a bluetooth compatible tea kettle? LOL
You can't target conscious people with implementing 5G. They don't use all that BigBrother crap, including stupid IOS/Android based smartphones.
It is about full, 24/7 control on the sheeple they don't know about. You can't do it with smartphone, because you need few times larger battery for 24/7 audio/video streaming. So, it is logical to use home appliances that permanently connected to the power grid and does not have any problems with power. Voice assistants not a solution too - even sheeple know that it is listening. Diswasher that is listening without knowledge of user is much better.
Yes, and before 5G came out, was there reliable equipment for a 5G network? Nope. But what you're supposing is that 5G is being implemented for surveillance. That is a monumental task. Coming up with a mesh network is minor compared to that.
video streaming.
This isn't happening. Even your version of events only includes a microphone discreetly hidden inside consumer electronics so even they don't know.
battery for 24/7 audio streaming
It's not bad. You don't stream the audio 24/7, you record it 24/7 and transmit it in packets alongside other data. Nobody would notice.
If it takes a meaningful amount of power, it would be noticed pretty readily even in electronics plugged into the wall.
Yes, and before 5G came out, was there reliable equipment for a 5G network? Nope.
Just like with 2G/3G/4G. What's wrong? New generations was build on the infrastructure of previous generation, that make things much simplier.
Coming up with a mesh network is minor compared to that.
Centralised network and mesh network is completely different beasts. In centralised network you have distinct master and slave devices. In mesh network there are no master who controls slave devices, so a problem of collision resolution arises. And it is more complex than resolving collisions in wired networks.
It's not bad. You don't stream the audio 24/7, you record it 24/7 and transmit it in packets alongside other data. Nobody would notice.
Your variant lack a feature of real-time surveillance on selected person.
If it takes a meaningful amount of power, it would be noticed pretty readily even in electronics plugged into the wall.
It is perfectly noticeable for the shitty phone battery, but
negligible in comparison to the average power consumption of home appliances.
That is not what complicated. To simplify example, let's limit with audio and assume that it is modern electric kettle, dishwasher and fringe with bluetooth module and fancy smartphone app. All of that devices permanently connected to power grid. So there are no problems with power. Every device have a board with MCU and Bluetooth module. Manufacturers use ready-to-use BT modules to avoid certification of every model in FCC and other local RF agencies. They just use already certified modules.
Now we need microphone. It is a tiny part that could be directly connected to device MCU or BT module. All you need to do - is to add a part and few trace to existing PCB design. Then, it just a matter of changing firmware to add audio processing to MCU or setting few registers in BT module to turn on audio inputs.
Now we need a permanent channel to BigBrother. It is not hard too. Since we use ready-to-use BT modules, we just replace them with pin-compatible BT+5G/4G modules.
And now, if we use BT+5G modules we are done. 5G have larger user capacity, so there should be no problems with additional cellular network users.
With 4G modules, we have 4 devices that demand channel to base station instead of one. 3 times more users. Cellular network will become out of capacity and smartphone users will be angry when they will not be able to do a call or connect to internet.
So, to avoid that we have to somehow negotiate between devices and choose one who will connect to cellular network and become a master. So, we need some special protocol, that will combine BT and 4G with negotiations, master selection, channel division, and so on. All that already implemented in the base of cellular protocols, but unuseable for 4G. And the most awful part - we have to make all that different modules and devices compatible and able to negotiate. When you have a cellular standard it is easy. You make the module, check against single testing base station and you are done. The same is with BT, WiFi, etc. But with new protocol, you have to be shure, that all devices will work in identical way. It took a decade to make all BT modules compatible with each other, but there still some problems. In case of open and known to user activity you have at least a way to debug and improve that stuff in real environment using user feedback. But in case of surveillance there is no way to get feedback, f.e. there is nobody present to tell manufacturer that electric kettle could not connect to dishwasher. And this is unresolveable in easy way.
And so on.
With 5G, you just move to next generation, adding demand for higher number of users and higher bandwidth. And you have all basic features borrowed from previous generation. In any case you will eventually replace 4G with something newer, just to utilise new bands, make it more power efficient, add some capabilities and so on.
With 5G work on the new generation is inevitable. With using 4G, you have to desing new system from the ground with doubtful perspectives to get it working in reasonable time due to the problems with finding bugs.
Now, in your example of making the certified module complete with a microphone and communication to 5G/4G, literally what is complicated about also having a miniature network to communicate with nearby devices and negotiate which one will actually communicate with 4G/5G. LOL. It's not complicated at all if you're going to that length anyway.
And, let's be real, I thought the goal was to target more conscious people who aren't willing to buy smart home devices to begin with. Now you're relying on everyone being surveilled to willingly by a bluetooth compatible tea kettle? LOL
Especially when you consider that everyone already has a phone on their person all the damn time. The people who are conscious enough to remove the battery or leave their phone behind when discussing incriminating matters are also conscious enough to not buy smart god damn tea kettles.
I still don't know any reliable mesh or equivalent nodes networks based even on standard modules from single manufacturer. If you know one, please name it, I'm interested in such things a lot. Everything I tried worked awfully. Things are not as simple as appeared to be if you have to automatically connect different devices into reliable network. And you have to do it without any human control and interference.
You can't target conscious people with implementing 5G. They don't use all that BigBrother crap, including stupid IOS/Android based smartphones.
It is about full, 24/7 control on the sheeple they don't know about. You can't do it with smartphone, because you need few times larger battery for 24/7 audio/video streaming. So, it is logical to use home appliances that permanently connected to the power grid and does not have any problems with power. Voice assistants not a solution too - even sheeple know that it is listening. Diswasher that is listening without knowledge of user is much better.
Yes, and before 5G came out, was there reliable equipment for a 5G network? Nope. But what you're supposing is that 5G is being implemented for surveillance. That is a monumental task. Coming up with a mesh network is minor compared to that.
This isn't happening. Even your version of events only includes a microphone discreetly hidden inside consumer electronics so even they don't know.
It's not bad. You don't stream the audio 24/7, you record it 24/7 and transmit it in packets alongside other data. Nobody would notice.
If it takes a meaningful amount of power, it would be noticed pretty readily even in electronics plugged into the wall.
Just like with 2G/3G/4G. What's wrong? New generations was build on the infrastructure of previous generation, that make things much simplier.
Centralised network and mesh network is completely different beasts. In centralised network you have distinct master and slave devices. In mesh network there are no master who controls slave devices, so a problem of collision resolution arises. And it is more complex than resolving collisions in wired networks.
Your variant lack a feature of real-time surveillance on selected person.
It is perfectly noticeable for the shitty phone battery, but negligible in comparison to the average power consumption of home appliances.