Does anyone have an answer for why God allows things like this and other atrocities to occur?
Free will above all else? Indifference? Multiple Gods ie some do harm and some do good? This reality is a long battle and wager between God and someone else, winner takes all but no interfering in the meantime?
Genuinely curious, I’m not just being dramatic or whatever
I do believe there is something more to be seen than what we can normally perceive with our senses, so the idea of God existing isn’t a ridiculous notion to me like it is with some
No reasonable answer scoffed at, honestly
Curious what other people who do believe in at least the possible existence of God tell themselves when considering why God allows things like this to happen
Kids with cancer, etc
Not to list off all of the wrongs and awful things of our world, because there’s a ton of incredible stuff, too
I look forward to hearing answers to this, if anyone cares to offer their thoughts
God is not a nanny for the humanity to allow or not allow anything humans do. According to orthodox christianity, God create humans and give them free will. Free will is what makes us godlike creatures. Simplified, free will is an ability of creature to make decisions and create cause-effect chains in the universe. Since it is a godlike feature, it is completely up to us how to use it and for what. If God will allow or disallow something for humans, humans will lose that free will feature and will not be godlike creations as created.
You could ask God for help and He could help you, but it will be result of your free will, and your cause-effect chain, not His.
We, as God's children having eaten the fruit, have knowledge of good and evil.
These things are evil, but if we were just animals we wouldn't worry about it. It's hardly worse than a moose being torn apart by wolves or a baby whale having it's face eaten by orcas.
Suffering is in the nature of the universe, that's pretty much the one thing all religions agree on.
What makes these things truly evil is that the people perpetrating them know they are bringing suffering and do it anyway. They do it for their own gain, not even caring that it will rebound on them as the Russian army decimates their army and cities.
The neo-nazi sociopaths who did this and all those who planned and trained and funded them and their terrorist operations have no God. They are the agents of evil.
God gave us the sandbox. We are allowed to do anything with it. Is this not the coolest dad? I only wish he didn't make jews. Then this life would have been paradise.
It depends on your world view. People are generally raised with the concept that staying alive is the most important thing to do. However if you believe the after life is nicer than here, then dying early could simply be a situation of getting relieved of duty early and going to a better place. If death is actually just a rebirth a nicer existence, would you still think the same way about death?
We all die; no one can put it off forever, all you do is delay the inevitably.
So what's left? Only the manner in which you face death.
I don't believe in life after death. I believe that heaven is going to your death without fear, knowing you lived your life properly, and hell is running from death, knowing you wasted the life you had and are full of guilt.
Christians will tie themselves up into knots trying to come up with an answer. The mental gymnastics are impressive.
The truth seems to be there isn't anyone or anything looking out for us, and putting "faith" (ie: the absence of evidence) in a higher power only takes away from mankind's own agency.
It's no wonder evangelical Christians fall for "trust the plan" larps like what happened with Q. They're conditioned to not being in control of their own destiny.
Christians will tie themselves up into knots trying to come up with an answer. The mental gymnastics are impressive.
The truth seems to be there isn't anyone or anything looking out for us, and putting "faith" (ie: the absence of evidence) in a higher power only takes away from mankind's own agency.
It's no wonder evangelical Christians fall for "trust the plan" larps like what happened with Q. They're conditioned to not being in control of their own destiny.
The truth seems to be there isn't anyone or anything looking out for us
This is the entitled perspective.
You live in a universe that has physical laws which allow life to happen; the odds of this are vanishingly small.
You live on the only planet we know of that can support live.
You had the incarnation of God hand you the cheat codes to living in said universe in a way that brings salvation from suffering if you just use them.
But...God didn't make you breakfast so you conclude no one ever did you any favours?
Has it ever occured to you that, God existing outside of what we perceive as space and time, there might be more important things to worry about? That maybe the suffering we see is our problem to deal with?
Christians will tie themselves up into knots trying to come up with an answer. The mental gymnastics are impressive.
The truth seems to be there isn't anyone or anything looking out for us, and putting "faith" (ie: the absence of evidence) in a higher power only takes away from mankind's own agency.
It's no wonder evangelical Christians fall for "trust the plan" larps like what happened with Q. They're conditioned to not being in control of their own destiny.
Does anyone have an answer for why God allows things like this and other atrocities to occur?
Free will above all else? Indifference? Multiple Gods ie some do harm and some do good? This reality is a long battle and wager between God and someone else, winner takes all but no interfering in the meantime?
Genuinely curious, I’m not just being dramatic or whatever
I do believe there is something more to be seen than what we can normally perceive with our senses, so the idea of God existing isn’t a ridiculous notion to me like it is with some
No reasonable answer scoffed at, honestly
Curious what other people who do believe in at least the possible existence of God tell themselves when considering why God allows things like this to happen
Kids with cancer, etc
Not to list off all of the wrongs and awful things of our world, because there’s a ton of incredible stuff, too
I look forward to hearing answers to this, if anyone cares to offer their thoughts
God is not a nanny for the humanity to allow or not allow anything humans do. According to orthodox christianity, God create humans and give them free will. Free will is what makes us godlike creatures. Simplified, free will is an ability of creature to make decisions and create cause-effect chains in the universe. Since it is a godlike feature, it is completely up to us how to use it and for what. If God will allow or disallow something for humans, humans will lose that free will feature and will not be godlike creations as created.
You could ask God for help and He could help you, but it will be result of your free will, and your cause-effect chain, not His.
Something like that.
We, as God's children having eaten the fruit, have knowledge of good and evil.
These things are evil, but if we were just animals we wouldn't worry about it. It's hardly worse than a moose being torn apart by wolves or a baby whale having it's face eaten by orcas.
Suffering is in the nature of the universe, that's pretty much the one thing all religions agree on.
What makes these things truly evil is that the people perpetrating them know they are bringing suffering and do it anyway. They do it for their own gain, not even caring that it will rebound on them as the Russian army decimates their army and cities.
no, we didn't eat an apple that made us all sinnners. That's jew nonsense
The world is fallen and the absence of God causes death and despair to naturally emerge.
Nah, you could understand it NOW, ya know, if you weren't a shill.
The neo-nazi sociopaths who did this and all those who planned and trained and funded them and their terrorist operations have no God. They are the agents of evil.
these things are being done by jews
God gave us the sandbox. We are allowed to do anything with it. Is this not the coolest dad? I only wish he didn't make jews. Then this life would have been paradise.
How else would the imbeciles learn ?
God ain't your mommy you have freewill hes mostly intrested in how you comport yourself
It depends on your world view. People are generally raised with the concept that staying alive is the most important thing to do. However if you believe the after life is nicer than here, then dying early could simply be a situation of getting relieved of duty early and going to a better place. If death is actually just a rebirth a nicer existence, would you still think the same way about death?
I think this is a shallow undsrstanding.
We all die; no one can put it off forever, all you do is delay the inevitably.
So what's left? Only the manner in which you face death.
I don't believe in life after death. I believe that heaven is going to your death without fear, knowing you lived your life properly, and hell is running from death, knowing you wasted the life you had and are full of guilt.
Christians will tie themselves up into knots trying to come up with an answer. The mental gymnastics are impressive.
The truth seems to be there isn't anyone or anything looking out for us, and putting "faith" (ie: the absence of evidence) in a higher power only takes away from mankind's own agency.
It's no wonder evangelical Christians fall for "trust the plan" larps like what happened with Q. They're conditioned to not being in control of their own destiny.
Christians will tie themselves up into knots trying to come up with an answer. The mental gymnastics are impressive.
The truth seems to be there isn't anyone or anything looking out for us, and putting "faith" (ie: the absence of evidence) in a higher power only takes away from mankind's own agency.
It's no wonder evangelical Christians fall for "trust the plan" larps like what happened with Q. They're conditioned to not being in control of their own destiny.
This is the entitled perspective.
You live in a universe that has physical laws which allow life to happen; the odds of this are vanishingly small.
You live on the only planet we know of that can support live.
You had the incarnation of God hand you the cheat codes to living in said universe in a way that brings salvation from suffering if you just use them.
But...God didn't make you breakfast so you conclude no one ever did you any favours?
Has it ever occured to you that, God existing outside of what we perceive as space and time, there might be more important things to worry about? That maybe the suffering we see is our problem to deal with?
Christians will tie themselves up into knots trying to come up with an answer. The mental gymnastics are impressive.
The truth seems to be there isn't anyone or anything looking out for us, and putting "faith" (ie: the absence of evidence) in a higher power only takes away from mankind's own agency.
It's no wonder evangelical Christians fall for "trust the plan" larps like what happened with Q. They're conditioned to not being in control of their own destiny.
There is no god. Religion is a coping mechanism for the desperate.