A number of us have at least one stalker user that just follows us around and down votes every post/every message we make, and in my case I think this user is u/Corporis. In my opinion, such behavior is not valid forum behavior and removing such users entirely from the platform would be not censorship, since these users are abusing the platform's voting system with what is, ultimately, a form of spam.
Thoughts?
I don't think it's him, because he receives the same. Like myself. And many others.
There is somebody and they're doing it to many other people. Look at this comment before I was down voted.
Funturistic admitted to doing it. He slipped. Look over my comment history in a topic with weather, Colorado Lows. https://conspiracies.win/p/15HImDfGMQ/x/c/4OXFIJYFIAs
What did that user say. He admitted to being on a multiple account and in cahoots with somebody regarding downvotes. Telling them to downvote. A flat Earther. Immediately after every comment was down voted.
Otherwise it's that other ban, who keeps coming back. They're now operating fuckchinalongtime.
Somebody has been harassing a lot of people, stalking them, and downvoting every comment they make. It could be your suggestion but they're also being down voted on every post.
Yes. Chinalong is such an obvious alt. I would like it if the admins at least could track IPs even though the trolls use vpns.
Interesting. If that's the case, I apologize to u/Corporis for the accusation.
Also, if that's the case, could somebody who is an admin here (How does one message @ an admin, in a comment? Who are the admins, even?) figure out who these abusive users are and remove them so that they don't pollute the voting system with spam votes. It's one thing to have a bias against somebody and down vote them more often than you might otherwise, but the idea of just clicking somebody's username and then downloading all of their posts and comments is definitely spam.
I also don't think it's that user. I do have a short list but I'm not willing to share it.
Admin should, but they don't. Don't know why they don't have that power. Also simply recheck and ban repeat accounts doing it. It should be easy to identify. It's a pattern. Not separate. They're doing it like a bot. Except it isn't a bot, it's somebody logging in at different times, then attacking every comment after they log in. It takes hours sometimes before the comments get down voted. It's every comment.
Admin should just get rid of down votes altogether. They're pathetic.
But the annoying thing is this user is a really disgusting troll to be doing that. It's stalking, and not normal disagreement, they're doing it to a lot of other people.
I disagree with getting rid of down votes. Down votes are a useful tool for sorting through content and determining whether or not the content is considered by others to be controversial or positive or negative, etc. for example, I might come across a comment and it jives with me in a certain way because I might be gullible for a specific kind of factoid, but then I notice that about 50% of people down voted and I might think a little bit more critically about it. Just like Amazon reviews; it's not the review format that's broken, it's just the lack of effort put into policing it correctly.
By having down votes, they're an attack on somebody speaking. It isn't disagreement. Disagreement you can just ignore or block. Down votes attack what somebody else says, often without even debating it with them. Sure they might be an asshole or even wrong. But why would you attack them for it.
They're also a tool of trolls attacking everything said for no other reason apart from trolling.
They're a dystopian mind trick. It sooner suppresses speech, into that is right and that's wrong. An agenda to control speech for profit and manipulation. It isn't free speech where there is no wrong answer.
Get rid of them, they aren't free speech.
Why not have a system wherein verified names can downvote, and alts are free to have but can't downvote? That would reduce the number of troll army members. I think Truth Social will go that way.
Edit: Ah, now I know that new accounts can't downvote; they have to age. That suggests that the troll alts we see were prepared and let sit to age before being used to downvote.
No just get rid of downvotes. It solves everything. There's no manipulating speech. We don't vote on speech. We walk away from it, if it offends. Or we block it.
We vote on elections. But there is no president of social media. Assholes today might think they're with all their fake followers, and fake likes, and retweets. But there is no president of social media. Instead that attitude has turned into dystopia. Suddenly it has created a woke cancel culture of trolls telling everybody else what to say because they speak like hypocrites. That programming votes and down votes, or likes and dislikes are the direct fault. Get rid of them problem solved. Not quite. The stupid laws need to go back to free speech. Not whatever this crap has become with its bullshit checkers and little gimping trolls correcting the narrative. Fuck off. Let people speak, freely. Yea not happening, but it's nice to dream of that other time before the before the bullshit. Where sites like 4chan were allowed everywhere.
There is no social score on speech. It faster isn't free speech.
Who cares? The posts are made up and the points don't matter.
The malicious users that use vote manipulation to place -10 or -20 down votes on a content submission then make sure that post does not get seen by others. That is a problem.
If we view upvotes as social capital, perhaps downvotes should require spending this capital. This would like the maximum lifetime negation effect. I think it would stop preserve the anarchic discretion that makes this an effective filter.
That is perfect. These economics are what made the Stack overflow website so great back when it was great. In order to down vote somebody you had to spend two of your up vote points. You got five points when somebody uploaded your question or 10 points when somebody up voted your answer.
I know (((Questionable))) and (((Corporis))) both do it. I think it's just different users on different posts.
Do you think they are the same user, if that's the case?
Possibly.
When one sees different troll names having the same word use, grammar, and intent, it becomes obvious what's going on. Troll juice always has the same putrid smell.
Yeah, probably the same one. He just used both those accounts to downvote.
Scroll down. Corporis just outed another alt: Ep0ch
Corporis is the biggest shill here. Operating many accounts, manipulating votes and posting non stop partisan and pro Russia propaganda. Point out the Trump-Epstein connection and like magic, he appears with his copypasta defense of Trump.
Corporis is 100% on payroll.
You're DEFINITELY full of shit
OK so it sounds like my suspicions were on point.
Yeah I think everyone (I mean genuine, real users) is starting to wake up to the non stop shilling by corporis.
They will post 5 or 6 divisive posts, they get downvoted, then delete them and repost them over and over to try to get their shilling to the top of "hot."
No genuine interaction, only mud slinging at one side of the political aisle.
This is conspiracies.win, not politics.win. People here are aware that both "sides" of the aisle are one in the same.
You're operating a multiple account as well. I don't and haven't.
Tell me which cunt, down voted in this topic? I don't and haven't. Guilty of down voting a topic, before. Never any user in a topic. Ever. You dumb fucks are down voting yourselves. It's laughable.
A few people have, outside of just the resident stalker. Why is that?
OOPSIE CORPORIS FORGOT TO SWITCH ACCOUNTS HAHAHAHAHAH
I have nothing to do with Corporis. I disagree with a few of his posts. Once, a long time ago I down voted one of his topics. But I don't down vote users in a topic. Guilty of down voting a topic. I don't anymore, unless, as an exception it's that same somebody who spammed this forum with text based submissions. Then I might. Nothing recently. I share like the user posting brahbruh the same stalker and so do a few others.
You're obviously guilty. Look at this thread. You idiots are down voting yourselves. You're also guilty of a multiple account. Look at that response, it proves it.
Whatever you say, corporis. The cat is out of the bag.
Yea you got yeast infection? There ain't no fixing that, use some lye on it, or whatever you use for your obvious itch. It obviously causes you to be hysterical.
No I absolutely do not operate any other account. I have nothing to hide.
Unlike your bucket of worms.
You are the stalker here u/brahbruh. You even kept stalking my posts harassing me for a while.
If anyone has a stalker it is me, I have a pathetic loser vote manipulating my posts down with up to -12 votes almost instantly when I post or comment.
Firstly, I don't stalk or target-downvote anyone. I'd love for the admins to post data about this so that everyone could see. Secondly, I said above that I apologize, if I was wrong about it being you. I don't mess with anyone. I just don't want anyone to mess with me, either.