OK, I appreciate your opening up. On this sub I'm a bit more freewheeling and so I'm glad you worked through the initial introductions to get to the real point. I'll take a look into these folks and get back to you on it, the names sound like I've encountered them before. (My testing of every word of the Bible as being historical truth has moved long past the time when I took it for granted and I can now explain that every point is based on greater historical authority than any other fact of history; charges of error have always fallen aside and the Bible retains its consistency and integrity; but that's not relevant because you've heard it. What's relevant is that testing of others has the potential for falsifying this report, and so far it never has.) The issue is whether achievement of "Christ consciousness of sorts" restores us to the teaching of your youth that it's all literally true too. We have someone on c/Christianity who asserts this state of himself regularly, and depending on definition I might claim it for myself too, so it becomes something of a less testable term, while the claims made by Jesus in the Bible are much more testable. You haven't said what about the Bible offends you, but that need not be answered right now.