Update: March 22, 2022
Stating or implying that a 'transgender woman is a biological male' will result in a perm ban from r/conspiracy as it appears the mod team considers this a TOS violation.
Human biology and science is to be classified as 'hate speech'.
It also appears you will be banned for submissions or discussion of
- CIS women that feel disenfranchised by transgender women receiving women's awards or competing in women's sports
The mods will not clarify whether discussing LGBTQ topics results in a ban, but by the evasive nature and continuous gaslighting it seems someone on the mod team does not want civil debate or any discussion on controversial topics.
Instead the mod prefers to run a honeypot permanently banning users that make submissions or discuss topics on a mod's private blacklist.
No matter of compromise would appease the lead mod who appeared to be putting on theater display.
Asking for clarification on blacklisted topics to prevent future misunderstanding and bans for wrongthink received additional evasive responses and gaslighting.
Suggesting mods should be open and honest with users about banned topics makes you a TMOR shill that wants the sub banned.
I did manage to get one honest reply.
Updated PM appeal:
short update:
https://files.catbox.moe/aqtt5j.png
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Full PM chain updated:
https://files.catbox.moe/0v3wxe.png
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Seems like there are a lot of old mods here and I remember u/axolotl_peyotl being pushed out under strange circumstance.
Summary:
Perm banned from r/conspiracy about 4 days ago
I asked why I was perm banned and what specifically in my submission and submission statement was a TOS violation for 'hate speech'.
I was never contacted or sanctioned by Admin.
This was 100% mod action..
To be honest I never anticipated the mod team Orwellian newspeak, mental gymnastics, dodging, projection, and gaslighting. I never once got a clear honest answer to what specifically in my submission or submission statement was a TOS violation.
Presumably if you engage in civil debate on r/conspiracy you will be perm banned if you raise the question of CIS women potentially being disenfranchised by biological men identifying as transgender women in awards and competitions .
The old public modlog is also offline, for how long who knows, but it seems like the mods over there currently in charge have two sets of rules (public, private) and do not like transparency.
A small passage from the pm
I repeatedly stated I was willing to compromise and post within the confines of a sandbox. I just asked what are blacklisted topics or how my submission was in violation something you refuse to respond to. You say use nuance, but then don't define what that means. You can't say follow the rules, when rules are unstated, unspecified, or ambiguous especially with respect to hidden blacklists.
PM chain appeal: LONG
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Submission:
https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/tfgmpv/women_of_the_year/
https://i.redd.it/h8llggn7pqn81.png
Submission statement:
USA (Today) announced their women of the year.
Included in the list was Biden's Ast. Sec HHS Rachel Levine. As more and more awards for women continue to be handed to biological men, you have to wonder at what point women begin to feel disenfranchised by a rigged system.
Tweet:
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1503747553669623818
https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1504004683639111682
USA Today column
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/opinion/2022/03/13/rachel-levine-honoree-usa-today-women-of-the-year/6600134001/
I'm getting the distinct feeling you're an alt account for a mod.
I am not a mind reader, I also did not click the perm ban button. I asked multiple times for clarification on what the mod deemed to be a TOS violation in the submission or submission statement.
Apparently you are free to discuss and criticize pedophiles in r/conspiracy,.
You are free to discuss and criticize killers, thieves, mass murders and so on.
On the other hand if you post a picture of Biden Assistant HHS secretary Rachel Levine winning USA Today 'women of the year' award and in the submission statement politely raise the question asking if CIS women feel disenfranchised by biological males identifying as transgender women when permitted to compete in awards and sports competitions, then that is a bridge too far.
What is the TOS violation?
Simply responding your submission is a TOS violation does not show the thought process behind the ban.
I wasn't the only person banned either apparently. I mentioned this in the pm chain. A different user was seemingly banned for a similar post a day after me, which was on the front page discussing both Lia Thomas and Rachel Levine. That user was nowhere near as polite or 'nuanced'. The self.text was removed by mods
https://web.archive.org/web/20220320074230/https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/tid93y/does_anyone_think_it_is_a_bit_orwellian_that_an/
That user posted a follow-up the next day after being perm banned.
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now back to your comments
If the mods have a private list of banned topics and they do not want users to discuss them, then they probably should tell the users what they consider wrongthink instead of running private blacklists and then perm banning users.
I did nothing to bait users. The submission statement was polite which I copied in the first reply as well as in the self.text.
If they have problems with LGBTQ topics then it's something they should say publicly instead of permanently banning people with no warning.
Way to blame the victim.
I didn't hit a perm ban button for wrongthink and then play evasive word games for the better part of four days while trying to get a false admission.
I said I was willing to compromise, I just asked for the list of banned topics to prevent any future misunderstanding. They refused. How exactly is a user supposed to comply and 'follow the rules' when the rules are ambiguous, private, unstated, and hidden?
Promoting Hate Based on Identity or Vulnerability https://www.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360045715951
https://youtu.be/y_9ZmiuyF7M?t=7
I'm guessing you would similarly ban South Park and all comedians whom you personally disagree with.
Stating that a 'transgender woman is a biological male' is not promoting hate or inciting violence.
It's a biological fact.
Biological males have XY chromosomes in their DNA and are born with male physical characteristics. You can't simply wish this away even if you call yourself a woman.
Posting a picture of Biden Assistant HHS secretary Rachel Levine winning USA Today 'women of the year' award and in the submission statement politely raising the question asking if CIS women feel disenfranchised by biological males identifying as transgender women when permitted to compete in awards and sports competitions is also not promoting hate or inciting violence.
The argument is based on human biology.
What is the TOS violation?
None of these topics or questions are 'hate speech' or inciting violence.
You can identify as a potato, it doesn't mean I hate you or wish death upon you. I might also find it ridiculous if you a identify as piece of carry on luggage to avoid paying full price airfare, it doesn't mean I hate you or wish death upon you.
Simply responding that a submission is a TOS violation does not show the thought process behind the ban.
No, of course not.
Can you even read? What you did was attempt to incite other people to hate on transgender people. That is why you were banned, and they told you right away in simple language.
I think you are part of a coordinated effort, and I'm sure the mods there do to. Your game is to alley-oop your daily reminders of basic facts so your bros over at TMOR can swoop in with enough hate speech to get the attention of the admins (who are also your TMOR bros). Then the issue will by why they allowed you to do this in the first place and after a long debate the subreddit will be banned.
You will find no issue with this post
https://twitter.com/SethDillon/status/1504901417953243136
Ok so you are against the Babylon Bee being locked out of their Twitter account until they delete a tweet naming Rachel Levine as Babylon Bee's Man of the Year?
https://twitter.com/SethDillon/status/1505663712266493958
https://twitter.com/SethDillon/status/1505666033620815880
https://twitter.com/libbyemmons/status/1505899446722301954
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1507014373964886017
You would also be against Twitter recently locking the account of @TuckerCarlson until he deletes a tweet in support of Babylon Bee and for recent segments raising debate about biological males in women's competitions?
https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1506075101732737028
https://twitter.com/SethDillon/status/1506679268373377024
https://twitter.com/SethDillon/status/1507441160951721990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFl88Wkz6eI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3Jmv0vZvJ4
And you would also be against Twitter locking the account of the Babylon Bee's editor
https://twitter.com/Adam4d/status/1506281322695872517
https://twitter.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1506282198655242247
Nice dodge of my questions and comments in the parent comment.
Where have I seen this before?
I did not incite anyone to hate or promote violence against transgender people.
Posting a picture of Biden Assistant HHS secretary Rachel Levine winning USA Today 'women of the year' award and in the submission statement politely raising the question asking if CIS women feel disenfranchised by biological males identifying as transgender women when permitted to compete in awards and sports competitions is not promoting hate or inciting violence.
That is called debate.
Biological males have XY chromosomes in their DNA and are born with male physical characteristics. You can't simply wish this away even if you call yourself a woman.
The argument is based on human biology.
What is the TOS violation?
None of these topics or questions are 'hate speech' or inciting violence.
The LGBTQ lobby has positioned itself within social media and intimidated, bullied, threatened, and canceled anyone that might say that a biological male is a transgender woman or question whether CIS women feel disenfranchised by biological males receiving women's awards and competing in women's competitions.
Apparently LGBTQ and their acolytes do not want debate, they want compliance with their orthodoxy. Raise a question and you will be banned for wrongthink.
When they ban you for holding a different opinion ('wrongthink'), they don't want compromise, that is not enough, they want you to bend the knee and change your opinion to match their own world view.
Simple language lol It was ambiguous world salad.
I was provided Orwellian newspeak.
I repeatedly asked for clarification what in the submission or submission statement was a TOS violation. I was stonewalled and gaslit for days with evasive posts and doublespeak much like your own.
Again where have I seen this before?
You completely passed over my questions much like the mod
lol.
I really am getting the distinct impression you are a mod of r/conspiracy trolling here to defend running a honeypot while issuing perm bans using private blacklists for wrongthink.
I am no part of SPLC or TMOR, but your motives are fairly transparent here. Did you really think coming here anonymously to peddle the same nonsense and defend your actions was going to look convincing?
I repeatedly stated I was willing to post within a sandbox and asked for a list of banned topics in r/conspiracy to prevent further misunderstanding. Mods refused to answer.
I compromised and communicated that in the future I would not state in r/conspiracy that a 'biological male is a transgender woman'
That was not good enough for the mod. They wanted me to bend the knee, grovel, and conform to their world view that saying or implying that a 'biological male is a transgender woman' is 'hate speech' and a TOS violation. As stated, I can agree not to discuss a list of banned topics in r/conspiracy, but will not be bullied into saying this is 'hate speech' and disregarding human biology.
If they would have said, please refrain from discussing LGBTQ as it could subject the sub to reprisal from Admin, I would have honored the request.
I had no real problem with the r/conspiracy mod team up until last week with exception of selective enforcement of their rules about memes. Permitting some memes and banning for others was bewildering. It made no sense as some submissions with simple humor and no informational value were allowed to remain while other submissions that contained humor + informational value that could spur further debate were removed.
I see no reason to further continue responding to you if you are going to evade my questions, gaslight me, and not engage in honest discussion.