New 9/11 footage
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There are many that think all conspiracy theories are "low IQ" and the people that fall for them are stupid, gullible, and crazy. Surely you don't agree with them right?
I think the earth is not spherical, and that that proposed shape is not among those reasonable/possible or consistent with science. You may be interested in joining us on the community I created specifically to discuss such things! You likely know nothing of flat earth research beyond the (largely) youtube psyop and its useful idiots repeating stupid things so you'll never evaluate it seriously...
I fucking called it, flat Earther! I have heard everything that flat earth people have to say and have done the research out of my own conspiracy obsession. I have spent the time on researching conspiracy theories. I know the stigma attached the the word "conspiracy theory". The thing is, 2020 totally woke people up to the truth. More people believe in conspiracy now than don't.
Flat earth gets criticism because it's silly. You have to have at least a pretty weak understanding of physics and dimensional space to believe most of the concepts in flat earth. Flat earthers have no euclidian model for the cosmos that holds up as well as the mainstream ball earth model. Look up the flat earth rocket man.
I do have a curious earth model that I can't call mainstream. Have you heard of "growing earth" theory? It's a counter argument for tectonic plate theory. There are some amazing animated models out there.
Back to the 9/11 conversation, I have heard of almost every conspiracy out there and loved the x files growing up, even have seni-rare x files memorabilia. The xfiles ended in early 2001 and the creator had a spinoff based on the hackers called the lone gunmen. The pilot episode aired in the spring before 9/11/01. It predicted 9/11 better than the official narrative. It would blow you mind if you haven't seen it
I've been down some crazy rabbit holes. Lizard people is my favorite, blue beam is my biggest bet, flat earth just doesn't have enough weight for me to give up on the ball earth model.
Are you prepared to consider that the "silly flat earth" you have experience with was a heavily funded and advertised misinformation campaign? You may be surprised to learn, that earnest flat earth research is not related to that or anything like you thought it was!
I assure you, it is quite the opposite. Reality is stranger than fiction because fiction is obliged to possibility. Once you understand physics and "dimensional space" you recognize that! Most people never get there :(
That's true. There is no alternative model. Just the one we are conditioned to believe in and required to faithfully repeat in order to matriculate (conditioning by rote, under the guise of education from childhood). Generally, earnest researchers are not involved nor particularly interested in creating an alternative model. They are busy engaging with research instead!
I have! It is interesting. Scott adams (dilbert) likes it a lot, i believe. And a batman? comic book illustrator is, I believe, the source.
Some of the flat earth researchers subscribe to it, and likewise there are some who toy with the conception of a spherical earth much larger than we are told.
Interesting! I like many, did enjoy some x-files. I'll check it out, for the "predictive programming" lulz, or perhaps art imitating life / life imitating art.
Well, if you ever feel like evaluating it further - or from a new angle - you are cordially invited to join us on the community I created specifically for it!
I appreciate the offer and civil discussion but I'll never be able to believe the earth isn't a spheroid. The mountains of information that make ball earth fit into these nice little models is lacking for all "flat" models. Flat earth is a neat thought experiment but nothing that can shift my paradigm.
That's good! That is also core to flat earth research. Belief is our enemy. Most all people, likely including yourself, believe that the world is spherical and this is both not knowledge, and directly against it.
There are no "flat earth models". There is only the model that we are required to believe and repeat in order to matriculate. There are no others available, and building a new one can be expected to take on the same order that the first one did (somewhere between 100's and 1000's of years).
We also don't determine what reality is, or how it works by model. Instead, we use science! Models are metascience at absolute best. They are tools for specific and limited purpose. All models are wrong, but some are limitedly useful for a limited time. In order to determine the shape of the world, we must measure the shape of the world. Models are in no way involved.
You are ahead of the curve in recognizing your belief, and your choice to prefer it. Most people are not so self aware! Your invitation stands in any case, if you change your mind, want to share your views with others, or just express disagreement!
Just imagine the trip Japan would have had to bomb Pearl Harbor in WW2, all around the horn of Africa then either up through the Panama Canal or on around the cape of South America then finally getting to Pearl...then back. Imagine our war with them having to transport everything all the way back...hopeless