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Get ready for another false flag (yewtu.be)
posted 4 years ago by eagleheart585 4 years ago by eagleheart585 +6 / -0
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– Ep0ch 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I still don't see why Russia needs a false flag?

Putin has support and popularity. Otherwise Russians would care. Do they? Why then create a false flag as a pretext, if the population largely supports whatever regardless. An excuse for when sanctions bite or war occurs? Hardly that reasoning, it could anyway.

An invasion is justified by the fact, the Crimea is threatened. That threat sooner increases into accidental war otherwise, if an agreement isn't reached. The threat of war could cause terms or treaty. If not, regardless, while there is increasing conflict in the Eastern regions, it seemingly would occur, now, or later as tensions have increased, increasingly.

A false flag prompts escalation perhaps to the international community, it might offer reasoning as its grounds, but the cause and effect has already made it clear what happens in the event of conflict. China is also supporting Russia. Which other international justification? Escalation is already occurring in the region.

The narrative of threat, false flag, heightens a response, it therefore is a opposing narrative to prompt recourse? Or please explain the propaganda? Why after increasing Russian build up, would they need another excuse to cause what could occur regardless? Who are they convincing?

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– IGOexiled 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

There is a call and response element to warfare. The false flag allows other nations an opportunity to opt in or out of support.

"Because of our stance on terrorism, our nation will stand with them against this threat." or "Because the attack was on holy ground, we see this as a religious issue and will not send troops."

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– Ep0ch 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yes, international community. But when the cause and effect constitute sanctions anyway from them for conflict, but their key allie China are supporting them anyway, and the population support Russian build up. Who are they convincing? It wouldn't matter.

Why a false flag? It prompts response. A response already amassing.

It therefore is what? The grounds for invasion?

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– IGOexiled 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It therefore is what? The grounds for invasion?

  • Russo-Swedish War, 1788

  • Winter War, 1939

  • Operation Trust, 1921-1926

  • Pearl Harbor

  • Operation Northwoods

  • 9/11

I'd say yes, this is their M.O.

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– Ep0ch 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Russian M.O? If it's a Russian false flag, the source material.

The false flag prompts recourse. It can grandstand immediate provocation into justifying conflict. Not the debate.

Who would Russia need to convince? Their own population supporting Russian build up, or the intervention? Their allies, like China supporting them? An international community, sanctioining conflict? Ukraine and allies attacking their security, or vice-versa?

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– IGOexiled 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

RUS has to be sure their moves won't interrupt German oil sales, for one example.

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– Ep0ch 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

No, they've largely cancelled those at the minute. Hence the soaring energy prices.

Until one argues it's the same game.

What is being implemented?

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