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posted 3 years ago by bfytw 3 years ago by bfytw +27 / -1
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– R_Hak 0 points 3 years ago +2 / -2

chinese vaccine is a traditional vaccine.

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– CrazyRussian 0 points 3 years ago +2 / -2

Hardly. To make traditional vaccine you need an isolated, pure virus in industrial amounts. But SARS-CoV-2 was never isolated even in small quantities for study. It is impossible to make traditional vaccine if you have no way to get enough cleared, pure virus particles without any contaminants.

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– R_Hak 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

They dont need industrial amounts. they need just one virus. You dont know what we are able (officially) to do biologically.

You need an alive virus. You infect cellular cultures, or eggs with it (different viruses grow better in different mediums) and then boom you get as many viruses you want. You then just need to inactivate the virus particles and the vaccine is done. (This is how traditional vaccine technology works. How influenza vaccine is made)

The mRNA vaccine on the other hand is not only experimental, because we have never had mRNA vaccines, but is also DE FACTO gene therapy. You get inoculated with foreign genetic material, that will go inside your cells and obligate your cells to produce foreign proteins, aka the viral proteins. And then your body is supposed to fight these same foreign viral proteins that your body produced! As you can see there are multiple steps that can fail, or worse be co opted by other SECRET ingredients in the vaccine.

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– CrazyRussian 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

You need an alive virus.

Viruses are not alive. They are just a complex chemical substances that trick living cells to copy them. That's all.

You infect cellular cultures, or eggs with it (different viruses grow better in different mediums) and then boom you get as many viruses you want.

Yes. Then you separate viruses from medium and get industrial amouns of viruses as intermediate ingridient of vaccine. It is described in every medicine schoolbook and for each and every virus vaccine was made for, there is a peer-reviewed scientific paper describing whole process of taking a virus, preparing medium, replicating virus, separating it from medium and measuring the purity of result.

But nobody, nowere got any amount of pure, clean SARS-CoV-2 viruses. Not even a dozen of them. SARS-CoV-2 was never isolated. You can't have industrial amounts of virus if nobody nowhere get even few of them.

If you have no industrial amount of viruses you can't do the following:

You then just need to inactivate the virus particles and the vaccine is done.

Simple like that. You can't make a traditional vaccine if virus was not isolated.

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– Gnometard 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Why ignore the adenovirus vector shot?

End result is the same

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– IGOexiled 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

But SARS-CoV-2 was never isolated even in small quantities for study

If it was made in a lab, they have full access to this.

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– CrazyRussian 0 points 3 years ago +2 / -2

It does not matter how and where it was made, was it made at all, and does it exist ever.

Even if you have some created sample, right from the lab, you have to replicate it and then, purify it to get decent amount of viruses to deactivate and make a traditional vaccine.

That process is not differ if initial virus taken from a sick human or somewhere else.

Replicating it and getting a pure virus suspension is a key procedure in making a traditional vaccine. That is why all viruses always was isolated and purified as a first thing scientists do with them. If you study virus, you need a clean, pure sample to study its properties and get an ability to create a vaccine, which is one of the main goal of virus research.

To start a production of traditional vaccine you need technology of creating necessary amount of viruse particles. Kilograms, if not tons of them. If scientists did not describe everything, temperature for replicating, process of medium preparation, exact medium composition, timing of replication, grades and number of stages of filtering, parameters of cenrifuging, solution to store purified viruses, all that stuff, you can;t make a traditional vaccine.

SARS-CoV-2 is the only known virus in the world, that was never isolated. No scientist in the world could tell how to get clean virus suspension. Nobody know how to do it. Since nobody develop technology to replicate and purify SARS-CoV-2 virus particles, there is no any chance to have a traditional vaccine.

If there was any paper with SARS-CoV-2 isolation described, it would had been immidiately published in most respectable journal, multiple scientific labs would had been replicated that paper and published their results confirming the isolation, and every single MSM would had scream about it for months, if not years, to cut down one of the main and solid scientific doubt in all that coronahoax and provide a real scientific base for it. But that was never done

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– IGOexiled 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Nobody know how to do it. Since nobody develop technology to replicate and purify SARS-CoV-2 virus particles, there is no any chance to have a traditional vaccine.

Men do many things in secret. "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.'

If there was any paper with SARS-CoV-2 isolation described, it would had been immidiately published

I think immediately hidden.

You are clearly smart. We simply differ in how we interpret our Unknowns. Спасибо за ваши мысли.

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