at the deepest level of both areas there seems to be a common trend or conclusion. That everything that has happened to us is a result of some small powerful group controlling and pulling the strings behind the scenes and hiding our true history and origin
bare in mind I dont speak for everyone, theres tons of theories and its not 100% black and white but there seems to be a common one associated with alien intervention and the possibility that we are being ruled by a secret alien race
now within the flat earth community (some) have incorporated there own theory on this and tbh its fucking interesting.
alot of flat earthers believe the same idea, that everything is the result of us being controlled but instead of aliens were being controlled and influenced by a highly advanced ancient race of humans.
there isnt a real purpose to this post just something interesting iv noticed
Competent flat earth researchers most all conclude that there are no aliens except in fiction. I have a background in ufology, and can doubly confirm that aliens and the "outer space" they hail from are entirely fictional, and that is their clear and obvious origin.
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lay it on me fwend, im open to alternative ideas
Cool. It's a LOT to lay on all at once though - and so best broken into smaller sections. Specific questions seeking specific answers are the best way.
In general, the posit that the world is spherical is a mere assumption more than 2 millenia old. Although commonly taught (as it was over 2 millennia ago, until now) as "fact" from childhood, no one has ever validated the assumption in all of human history.
Aliens are a much more modern invention of fiction. The stereotypical "grey" we know and love, for instance, wasn't created until the early 1990's.
In ufology, you learn that the MIC (oss first, in point of fact) has been using "little green men" and the intentional and publicized conflation with them exclusively for silencing/discrediting/slandering (researchers, scientists, reporters - you name it) for 70+ years. The reason that strategy is effective, is because people know innately and acutely how stupid and fictional "aliens" are. There has been a mass advertised effort to change this, through fiction/media, for the purposes of psychological warfare and encouraging alien worship (seen in virtually all ufology circles to some extent - positively a religious cult)
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the thing iv personally noticed is that aliens have become the atheists god in a sense. what bugs me about it is that all of our depictions of aliens are too similar to us. if we go by what mainstream science says its very unlikely that they would even come close to a resemblance of us or any creature from this planet for the matter. an upper and lower torso with 2 appendages at each end connected to a spinal column leading to a cranium that has 2 eyes 2 ears and mouth. <- thats an earth thing, other creatures from other planets would be completely different.
if aliens evolved to have those traits it must mean that there is some form of intelligent design ensuring that this structure is formed. (im just kinda thinking out loud at this point)
Spot on. They are a big part of the mythology of scientism.
Also spot on. It's always a humanoid. It's cheaper that way (you must consider production costs!)
A completely reasonable assertion, assuming that "evolution" exists (it doesn't) and is the cause of the creation of life (it isn't).
Lol, incest porn. The old tricks are the best tricks eh?
No, I do not believe that fantasy. Thank you for asking!
Incorrect, but widely taught. The "theory" of evolution is not even a valid scientific theory. Understanding why (and even discussing it) is impossible without knowing what science is and how it is practiced.
Unfortunately, the vast majority of us are taught incorrectly, and do not even know the correct definitions of the vernacular (we learn incorrect colloquial ones instead). How could you ever hope to discern between science and pseudoscience/mythology/religion masquerading as it unless you thoroughly understand what it is (and isn't) first? You can't do that when the definitions you learn are wrong.
I eschew stories, fantasy, and belief in knowledge. In determining what the world is and how it works, I prefer science instead!
Don't jump to conclusions. Ask questions instead! That way you won't look so foolish!
yeah im starting to think evolution is bunk also. no missing links, no fossil records, why havnt sharks evolved at all, they've been around for ever.
well where on this subject, whats your thoughts on dinosaurs? or fast petrification for that matter?
LOL.. 100? You're being generous.
With that being said.. I do find the alternative/hidden history mumbo Jimbo fascinating and the only thing believable.
You literally said the same thing to me a couple of weeks ago
Does your software program have a bunch of prerecorded comments and phrases to select from?
You show up on EVERY flat earth post
Interesting
Methinks the woman doth protest too much :)
I didn't say anything about flat earthers... Flat earthers (the few of them that genuinely exist) largely believe the world is flat (just like the globe believers do about the globe) and merely parrot what their latest "authority" told them was true.
IQ has absolutely nothing to do with the likelihood of becoming a braindead parrot mindlessly repeating what you were "taught" (through conditioning by rote under the guise of education) as gospel and inerrant truth beyond doubt.
Another of the army of FE shills appears, right on queue
Same person with multiple accounts or are you all in a room somewhere in Israel?
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And that made it difficult for you to understand? If you don't understand something, you should ask questions!
No, I'd prefer to appear to be a moron. Ask anybody.
Ugly!? Do you live in a city?
That is largely a controlled opposition psyop that you have experienced. It is designed to prevent you from ever looking into the subject seriously.
Flat earthers don't really exist beyond that, a contrived stereotype for the purpose of slander. Flat earth researchers, of which I am one, are most often not flat earthers.
Would you care to provide some of your favorite resources that aren't a part of the "controlled opposition psyop"?
I'm open to the idea of space being fake and gay (NASA's definitely full of shit), but not willing to sit through another single hour of maligned bullshit to try to find competent information (that I've currently written off as nonexistent)-- but since you seem to have already done that, surely you wouldn't mind sharing your favorite resources? If you do, I'll give it a go.
This is a request made in good faith.
Sure! However, the subject is one of active research and active researchers. The conclusions they reach, and the sources they employ are diffuse. There is no singular bible or textbook to point to (though many recommend "earth not a globe" as a decent place to begin - though heavily christian slanted and biblically oriented)
My favorite resource is me! I am an active researcher in the subject, focusing primarily on the scientific history regarding the subject. Please ask me anything.
The best way to understand what flat earth research is, is to ask specific questions! Through that process I can suggest more specifically relevant "resources". Otherwise the "resources" being employed are the totality of human knowledge, history, and science available to us.
I mourn your wasted time, as I mourn my own. If I were to direct you to a video to watch, it would likely be of a direct observation or specific scientific concept and not some sort of "aggregate" infotainment video. There are undoubtedly some that are worth watching, but you have to wade through an ocean of bullshit to find them (part of that psyop, for obfuscation).
It sounds like you have already conducted a little research yourself, seeing your feelings towards nasa. What brought you around?
I need to be clear, that the vast majority of flat earth research is conducted by independent researchers (such as myself). As such, the approaches, "resources", and conclusions vary wildly. I cannot stress this enough. Even that the world is flat is not agreed upon. This is the way it OUGHT to be when good research is actually being conducted.
I can share my views, my conclusions, and my "resources". But I can't speak for anyone else.
I asked for resources in good faith, and you failed to provide a single one. I'm not interested in asking piecemeal questions --- surely someone somewhere in the "legitimate" research community has compiled some body of evidence that you yourself view as share-worthy, no?
NASA being bullshit and Stanley Kubrick filming the hoax landing aren't evidence of a flat earth. Bullshit on one side doesn't imply truth on the other. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and extraordinary evidence doesn't come from AMAing an anon on a message board.
Provide links that you find valid, or I'm back to genuine disinterest.
The truth is far more interesting.
That is the controlled opposition psyop that you are talking about (and likely all you have any experience with)
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Earth is flat surfaced with a circular dome covering aka the firmament which separates space from deep space- Also the Earth is an immovable object and it is the stars that move not the planets- 1 Chronicles 16:30: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable." Psalm 93:1: "Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ..." Psalm 96:10: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ..." Psalm 104:5: "Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken."
Lol, atheists only? Atheist Opinions Only Allowed? Kinda narrows down the talk?
Space is fake and gay
We live in a "crater" on a bigger earth
"aliens" are beings from different biospheres (craters) on the larger earth
these "aliens" came to our biosphere millennia ago and have been steering our civilization for their own purposes since
do you mean a geocentric model with a much larger planet or body? one big sun or multiple local ones? give me the breakdown as you see it
yes, our "plane" may be unfathomably large, still possibly "round" though. Possibly multiple suns. The moon is a reflection of the larger body (we're in a crater) and the "stars" and "galaxies" are different zoomed in perspectives. We are "Sirius B" in "space" and also the crater Sulpicious Gallus M on the moon (according to one theory).
I don't fully "believe" this theory, but I think it's worth considering when everyone is arguing about flat vs round.
The moon is a mystery, so many things about it are strange. Im on board with the idea the moon is a reflection of another body. Something thats been bothering me for some time is that through some ancient history and also fringe theory's, the concept of a third body often comes up. Nibiru, a dark sun ect.
what if theres another body like a huge magnetic loadstone at the north pole, kinda like the mount meru legend and the moon is a reflection of that stone?
Space is definitely not what they say it is
This shit is flat, for sure
I haven't yet seen anything convincing on the crater earth, if you don't mind sharing something?
I've consulted the moon reflection videos but am thoroughly unconvinced
If there's nothing else to pull from as evidence of the crater earth then that's fine
It's much harder to prove crater earth than it is to prove that this realm is flat and non-rotating
We would have to have eyes on what is past the ice wall to prove anything, imo
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I think some of the moon reflection theories are on the right track but have it wrong generally because they don't show just how big our "earth" actually is. They tend to suggest only a few "lands" exist beyond our own continent, when there may actually be far more than just a few, aka the "stars". Check out the "crater earth" guy on youtube. He doesn't get everything "right" but I think the point is to be speculative. After all, we're just trying to piece all this together.
Looking forward to NASA deception going mainstream so that the people will start demanding answers and maybe we will get to discover the nature of this realm during our lifetime!
u/#pepepopcorn