Who knows what’s true- but it’s been said that Trump did fly on his plane from FL to NJ, where he has a home. Lots of people ran in those circles and did the same. He is not on the flight lists of going to epstein’s island.
But who knows! I don’t trust ANY media not to lie
But if MSM had any proof like we have on Bill the MSM would have shown it and Trump would have been locked up by now. They went after Trump for every little thing and they would have not passed on this opportunity.
I agree. In my personal view- he saw the signs and distanced himself. That’s what I believe.
I also think that’s why he never drank- bc he understood how it could be used against a person, (and he had seen his brother suffer).
But I am perfectly willing to accept that he did things. (IF, in fact- actual proof is shown that he did.). I’m open to that. But so far I’ve seen nothing. And God knows they have looked.
And it’s taken me back to my childhood and remembering the things my grandparents and parents taught me…… be without (obvious) controversy…. and you will give your challengers, competitors, or enemies nothing to use against you.
It makes me realize how far civilized society has fallen. (I never lived that way anyway- but hell if don’t respect those who do.)
(And I’m not saying he is an angel- just saying he was shrewd in knowing what could be used against a person that could get you automatically cancelled.)
Pictures at socialite parties mean very little. Not like the Clinton's that are photographed at the island with underage girls, or in the Lolita express with underage girls, or together with Ghislain Maxwell at their daughters private wedding.
Trump is noted on the flight logs once in 1997 only.
Once. When his plane broke down and he hitched a ride with a small plane from one US city to another US city.
Trump never went to the Epstein island, unlike the clintons that went there something like 28 times, on many of those trips bill and hillary ordered the secret service to not accompany them.
The narrative is that trump flew on the lolita express, but the logs don't prove that.
The facts are that Trump was the only one willingly cooperating with the investigators of the case surrounding Epstein. The investigators reported they got good information they could act on from him and was very pleased with the willingness to donate time and effort from Trump.
Trump also outed Epstein as a shady character and banned him from his hotels. My guess is Trump is no fan of Epstein.
On the contrary. I've been here a whole lot longer than you. And the argument everyone had in lock step was "But but Trump never flew on the plane with Epstein!" Despite him being in a hundred pictures and video with Jeff. Despite Trump literally owning a pageant to display underage girls to potential buyers/sex traffickers. Despite Trump and Epstein being named in a case where they raped a 13 year old girl together, long before his forray into politics.
Dude Trump flying from FL to NY is old news. He was asked about it, spoke about it.. all like 3 years ago. Nothing new has come out regarding Trump today
Who knows what’s true- but it’s been said that Trump did fly on his plane from FL to NJ, where he has a home. Lots of people ran in those circles and did the same. He is not on the flight lists of going to epstein’s island. But who knows! I don’t trust ANY media not to lie
If Trump is guilty then so be it.
But if MSM had any proof like we have on Bill the MSM would have shown it and Trump would have been locked up by now. They went after Trump for every little thing and they would have not passed on this opportunity.
I agree. In my personal view- he saw the signs and distanced himself. That’s what I believe.
I also think that’s why he never drank- bc he understood how it could be used against a person, (and he had seen his brother suffer).
But I am perfectly willing to accept that he did things. (IF, in fact- actual proof is shown that he did.). I’m open to that. But so far I’ve seen nothing. And God knows they have looked.
And it’s taken me back to my childhood and remembering the things my grandparents and parents taught me…… be without (obvious) controversy…. and you will give your challengers, competitors, or enemies nothing to use against you.
It makes me realize how far civilized society has fallen. (I never lived that way anyway- but hell if don’t respect those who do.)
(And I’m not saying he is an angel- just saying he was shrewd in knowing what could be used against a person that could get you automatically cancelled.)
Pictures at socialite parties mean very little. Not like the Clinton's that are photographed at the island with underage girls, or in the Lolita express with underage girls, or together with Ghislain Maxwell at their daughters private wedding.
The Real Trump-Epstein Relationship - While Former President Clinton Partied with Epstein on Orgy Island - Citizen Trump's Relationship Was Mostly Adversarial
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7258023/Jeffrey-Epsteins-pilot-poses-80M-fleet-planes-new-pics-Lolita-jet-emerge.html
Trump is noted on the flight logs once in 1997 only.
Once. When his plane broke down and he hitched a ride with a small plane from one US city to another US city.
Trump never went to the Epstein island, unlike the clintons that went there something like 28 times, on many of those trips bill and hillary ordered the secret service to not accompany them.
The narrative is that trump flew on the lolita express, but the logs don't prove that.
https://www.insider.com/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-flight-logs-unsealed-2019-8
The facts are that Trump was the only one willingly cooperating with the investigators of the case surrounding Epstein. The investigators reported they got good information they could act on from him and was very pleased with the willingness to donate time and effort from Trump.
Trump also outed Epstein as a shady character and banned him from his hotels. My guess is Trump is no fan of Epstein.
Here is the lawyer for the girls suing Epstein talking about interactions with Trump in 2009
Called out Bill, Epstein and the "famous island" in 2015. Start at 22:30 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOktR-FbzvU&feature=youtu.be
Here's a tweet he made in 2012 - Trump tweet (2012) - Got to do something about these missing chidlren grabbed by the perverts. Too many incidents--fast trial, death penalty.
Trump Was 'Only One' To Help Prosecutor In 2009 Epstein Case
Fusion GPS Tried And Failed To Link Trump To Jeffrey Epstein
The documents released from the Ghislain Maxwell case also show that witnesses testify that Trump was not involved with the Epstein enterprise.
Thank you for this extra info.
The Trump campaign's digital marketing arm is still flush with cash I see.
It was an enlightening post with linked sources. Tell us what you dispute.
Asuch as I'm not a huge fan of Trump, if there were an real dirt anyone had seen n have m it would have come up a long time ago.
Recently thru puberty, private planes, and no masks.
Reserved for the el lites.
But then again i remember seeing video of little kids there. And that is.
Sick.
ITT: Trumptards and campaign employees scramble to move the goalposts.
I don't understand your comment. What were the original goalposts and how have they shifted?
literally none of you understand that trump is a professional informant. mob, pedo-mossad, etc.
Guilty as charged, I guess.
why the downvotes? I'm not saying this as a criticism.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
On the contrary. I've been here a whole lot longer than you. And the argument everyone had in lock step was "But but Trump never flew on the plane with Epstein!" Despite him being in a hundred pictures and video with Jeff. Despite Trump literally owning a pageant to display underage girls to potential buyers/sex traffickers. Despite Trump and Epstein being named in a case where they raped a 13 year old girl together, long before his forray into politics.
Dude Trump flying from FL to NY is old news. He was asked about it, spoke about it.. all like 3 years ago. Nothing new has come out regarding Trump today
Why do you believe this?
https://imgur.com/mbBOpQy
I thought Bill Gates was on there too?
This is from business insider - perhaps they receive "grants" from the Bill and Melinda Gate Foundation. I guessing they probably do.
Exactly.