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posted 4 years ago by pkvi 4 years ago by pkvi +8 / -2
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– MrBrrrrrrrrt 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

So you have to sit in the driver's seat, have your feet near the pedal, have your hands hovering over the wheel and be looking out for hazards and this is "full automation"? lol. I'll stick to my manual ICE thanks. The technology simply isn't there yet.

When I can "drive" to a bar, get hammered and then get in the back seat and have my car drive me home, then I would be interested. Honestly though, I don't foresee automated cars being available to consumers. Companies running taxi services perhaps. Just imagine the insurance implications for a regular person. You're sitting there reading a book or something with the car driving itself and then boom, accident. Imagine the investigations. The manufacturer trying to wriggle out of taking responsibility, your insurance company doing the same. It would be a nightmare.

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– MrBrrrrrrrrt 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

You understand that hammered means drunk right?

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– MrBrrrrrrrrt 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Absolutely. It's one thing for an autopilot system for planes where the flight paths are uncongested and the chances of something suddenly appearing is practically zero. But on the ground, with unpredictable people, road signs, weird road systems and general potential hazards around every corner? Fuck that.

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– MrBrrrrrrrrt 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Well yeah. You know what I mean though. Another craft isn't suddenly going to appear a few meters in front of a plane without anyone knowing in advance unless we're dealing with some black site stealth craft or an alien craft.

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– sep11insidejob 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

It's beta. Also Tesla is aiming at insuring it's own vehicles.

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– MrBrrrrrrrrt 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

You wouldn't think self driving cars still in beta would be allowed on public roads. Seems like a liability to me.

But yeah, I've always thought it would make sense for Tesla to offer insurance direct. Despite the speeds they're capable off, possible higher fire risk and general high cost, I imagine they're involved in less accidents due to their safety features. So despite when there is a crash or whatever when the fix will cost a lot, the amount of claims will be profitable compared to the premiums Tesla will rake in.

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– sep11insidejob 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The beta is going to testers only after they prove that they pay attention. There is no other way to test this other than on normal roads. CNN fake news and all other media constantly attack tesla. Main reason for this is they pay 0 for advertisements and is going to bury the old school car companies.

I am a tesla owner and investor.

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– MrBrrrrrrrrt 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Eh. I've been on military training sites that are like small towns. Road systems etc. There's no reason you couldn't populate one of those with threats and do a significant amount of fact/bug finding whilst still in a control environment. More expensive though I guess than just letting rip on public roads.

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– sep11insidejob 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

This is getting ready to full release, what are you talking about? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk8VIBRxcjs

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– MrBrrrrrrrrt 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

We'll see. I just don't think we're there yet. How many times have you been driving and seen something suss and thought to yourself "that person is going to do x dumb thing" and prepared for that and then they did. There are certain nuances I think when it comes to driving that you can't program a car to do.

Question for you as a Tesla driver. Assuming you have some form of self driving mode in your car, how does it fair on roads where there's no divider line splitting your lane from on coming traffic on the other side of road? I drive on quite a few roads like that and have always wondered how AI would handle that. Does it use the gutters as reference points and then divide the road in two?

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– sep11insidejob 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I only have Autopilot and will only purchase Full Self Drive when it is 100% legal and proven. With that said, the Autopilot saves my sanity in the highway. Autopilot only works on roads with a divider.

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– Junionthepipeline 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Anything to kill jobs

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– the-new-style 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

"Human takes over when the going gets tough" is the opposite of safe.

1983

Abstract

This paper discusses the ways in which automation of industrial processes may expand rather than eliminate problems with the human operator. Some comments will be made on methods of alleviating these problems within the ‘classic’ approach of leaving the operator with responsibility for abnormal conditions, and on the potential for continued use of the human operator for on-line decision-making within human-computer collaboration.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0005109883900468

https://sci-hub.st/10.1016/0005-1098(83)90046-8

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FUD

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