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posted 4 years ago by BigBadBrutus 4 years ago by BigBadBrutus +17 / -0
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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Dude, you keep moving your goalposts from your original points of "decentralization for the win" are you even aware of it? Now you're saying as a way to discredit that a centralized standing army was necessary to win the American Revolution, that 200+ years later America is cucked. Well, that's not a response to the original point, now is it? Some centralization is necessary, too much is bad. The Founders knew this an limited the central government, but later generations fucked that up.

And just because Windows is somewhat shitty and has a path dependency leading to a larger than deserved share of the marketplace...that doesn't make Linux some wonderkind either. Linux is niche, you know it's niche too, but hey, if it's your preferred brand, I'm not shitting on it just describing something accurately.

Lastly, your an-cap version of life is, well, unrealistic. People build reputational networks of friendship, coworkers and family relationships in communities that make them resilient.

What do you say to the fact that much of the world operates on person to person networking? You wanna get involved in stocks, banking and finance...best move to a big city, especially NY. You want to work in the automotive industry, it's Detroit for America mostly. Fashion industry? NY or Paris. The film industry, well, you'd better move to Hollywood. Porn? The San Fran Valley. Etc. etc. etc.

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

All your examples is not about modern times. They build all that surveillance and other stuff everywhere to prevent or control any possible unapproved centralization. There could not be any Founders anymore. Literally. All of them would be neutralised long before they even will begin to make real steps to centralization.

Trying to project historic precedents over the modern time is a direct way to loose. The treats pattern for rebellion is completely different now. You could not publish Fokischer Beobachter, organize Boston tea party or even just save community money in Switzerland bank. You will not have international support from nearly all first-world countries. And even third-world will not support you. Times changed. You lost an option to centralize.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

There is nothing new under the sun. Hitler would have learned well from Napoleon in his invasion of Russia, and so on.

And there is already a lot of centralization that is against the NWO. For starters, entire US. states where, get this, patriots mobilized, organized, and won political power.

The Soviet Union and the East Germans had a surveillance state that makes ours pale in comparison. That evaporated like water in the summer sun. Just one day, it went poof.

The Founders understood this, that's why the states had to "unite or die".

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Nobody stops you from checking your theory. If you believe that you can't win without centralization - go for it. I'll be very glad if it will appear that I was wrong and you will win, and will celebrate you and your friends as new Founders. And it will be very sad if you fail because I was right.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Past history has not falsified that hypothesis that some centralization is necessary for a movement to succeed. What do you got? You're like a college professor spouting convoluted theory that has not been out in the real world.

And everything man touches in this world eventually falls into rot and decay. That centralized power corrupts and must be fought back against, and yes, the rebels soon become what they despised. Civilizations rise and fall. It's called entropy. Is this supposed to somehow undermine my thesis? In the long run, we are all dead too, ya know.

But the lone rebel, in the end is just that, a lone rebel that fails to make change. You're a Unibomber type. I get it. Keep doing what you're doing. Undermining authority that is corrupt is very useful.

However, at this point, this conversation is done. You can have the last word.

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