Why do cultists worship Aleister Crowley when he was basically a failure?

posted 3 years ago by FederalAgentNickGurs 3 years ago by FederalAgentNickGurs +15 / -0

He failed the abramelon ritual or whatever its called, because he didnt want to finish it, then started his own makeshift cult which accomplished nothing and ended with all its members leaving with hardcore mental disorders.

i guess his saying "do what thou wilt" must sound pretty cool to whoever thinks this guy accomplished anything of value.

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– MO-Carpenter 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It's physically impossible to kill the people that you claim.

So do you think children are immortal? What a retarded thelemite hot take. Kids can’t be murdered you guys, time to pack it all up this guy solved all child murders..

When someone talks about wanting to murder children, I’m going to treat them as someone who wants to murder children. I don’t care how edgy they are being.

I do not care how stupid you are for not being able to read lyrics whimsically fetishizing killing kids. If someone wants to make their persona about child sacrifice I’m going to look negatively upon them for it.

When I hear:

“For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence[8] is the most satisfactory and suitable victim.” Link https://www.thelemistas.org/en/Documents/Crowley/MTP/mtp_12

I can read the words Crowley wrote. You’re making such a silly argument. It’s like a pedophile creating cartoons of raping and murdering children. You’d be shouting how it’s not real murder, and how it’s not child porn and it’s just edgy art. Meanwhile anyone with half a brain can see someone who at the VERY LEAST is severely mentally ill and needs to be kept away from children permanently.

Either you’re a pedophile, a satanist, or have zero regard for children if you think that’s acceptable.

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– DavidColeIntrepid 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

So do you think children are immortal?

The claim is a quote about killing millions or billions of children which, as previously stated, is a dry joke about seminal fluid. If you were someone who only heard about Thelma and their cake in passing than you would understand this. You're wilfully ignorant on the subject.

And what the hell is that site you're trying to use as a reference? Commie witch larpers worshipping "che Crowley". You're not serious.

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– MO-Carpenter 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I’m quoting you some Crowley and you’re referring to a separate writing? Kinda bait and switch isn’t it? You’re shoehorning in something off topic to what I’m showing you to disprove what you’re ignoring.

Here’s some more from the man himself while you’re trying to talk about some innuendo somewhere else. Stop trying to avoid Crowley and his outright descriptions of what he’s about.

But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is the best. The truly great Magician will be able to use his own blood, or possibly that of a disciple, and that without sacrificing the physical life irrevocably.[10] An example of this sacrifice is given in Chapter 44[11] of Liber 333. This Mass may be recommended generally for daily practice.

https://www.thelemistas.org/en/Documents/Crowley/MTP/mtp_12

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– DavidColeIntrepid 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You aren't quoting Aliester Crowley. As stated, "che Crowley" isn't a real person. These are fake "quotes"

Here is chapter 44 from the book of lies in it's entirety. Tell me where you see any "human sacrifice"

THE MASS OF THE PHŒNIX The Magician, his breast bare, stands before an altar on which are his Burin, Bell, Thurible, and two of the Cakes of Light. In the Sign of the Enterer he reaches West across the Altar, and cries: Hail Ra, that goest in Thy bark Into the Caverns of the Dark!

He gives the sign of Silence, and takes the Bell, and Fire, in his hands. East of the Altar see me stand With Light and Musick in mine hand!

He strikes Eleven times upon the Bell 3 3 3—5 5 5 5 5—3 3 3 and places the Fire in the Thurible. I strike the Bell: I light the flame: I utter the mysterious Name. ABRAHADABRA He strikes Eleven times upon the Bell.

Now I begin to pray: Thou Child, holy Thy name and undefiled! Thy reign is come: Thy will is done. Here is the Bread; here is the Blood. Bring me through midnight to the Sun! Save me from Evil and from Good! That Thy one crown of all the Ten. Even now and here be mine. AMEN.

He puts the first Cake on the Fire of the Thurible. I burn the Incense-cake, proclaim These adorations of Thy name.

He makes them as in Liber Legis, and strikes again Eleven times upon the Bell. With the Burin he then makes upon his breast the proper sign. Behold this bleeding breast of mine Gashed with the sacramental sign!

He puts the second Cake to the wound. I stanch the blood; the wafer soaks It up, and the high priest invokes!

He eats the second Cake. This Bread I eat. This Oath I swear As I enflame myself with prayer: “There is no grace: there is no guilt: This is the Law: DO WHAT THOU WILT!”

He strikes Eleven times upon the Bell, and cries ABRAHADABRA. I entered in with woe; with mirth I now go forth, and with thanksgiving, To do my pleasure on the earth Among the legions of the living.

He goeth forth.

COMMENTARY (ΜΔ) This is the special number of Horus; it is the Hebrew blood, and the multiplication of the 4 by the 11, the number of Magick, explains 4 in its finest sense. But see in particular the accounts in Equinox I, vii of the circumstances of the Equinox of the Gods.

The word “Phoenix” may be taken as including the idea of “Pelican”, the bird, which is fabled to feeds its young from the blood of its own breast. Yet the two ideas, though cognate, are not identical, and “Phoenix” is the more accurate symbol.

This chapter is explained in Chapter 62.

It would be improper to comment further upon a ritual which has been accepted as official by the A∴A∴

There are absolutely organizations which engage in human sacrifice, ona being one. If you see their insignia then you run away as fast as you can. "Spirit cooking" and that one lady maria abrimovich, whatever her name is, are much closer to actual human sacrifice than jacking your dick into confections.

It's a joke to "trigger" posh evangelists. I'm not a thelemite or part of the astrum argentum. I'm simply not completely ignorant of them.

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