new place in the past 2 months and good discussion goes on over there. get off these reddit like sites. this just proves the "dead internet theory". since it's basically JUST LIKE REDDIT, but its NOT reddit.com LOL.
True! I discovered this years ago. I was searching and couldn't find a single topic which allowed me past 40-50 pages....it was such a sham. They are all duplicates...
I know it's centered around bots and algorithms running most of the internet. I'd say that's true, but I still believe that there's still a lot of human interaction and discussion going on.
I'm of the personal belief that a lot of the mainstream sites are manipulated with discussion that is pushed by state governments.
We know this because we know China employs people and bots to manipulate public opinion in favor of the government. It's okay to talk about and report about China's evil and manipulative practices (at least for now). It's the states that are using it against us where it's tougher to find information, like the US and Israel.
Aside from governments pushing this practice, I have no doubts that corporations use this practice, as well.
I agree. I remember fondly searching around and discovering so much information and so many communities that were thriving and active but each unique and purposeful. The ads were barely there and if they were they were typify self hosted and directly managed.
The blogs (before the term was really a thing) were so much better. Hell...even the home websites on the universities were great....
IRC was a jungle and if you wanted to have DMs you could share your messenger or AOL....
Man I miss the golden internet. Centralisation ruined the culture of it.....that's what is missing in my opinion. A collection of cultures...now it's Echo chambers and monoculture everywhere. Even the wins kind of suffer because they feel like Reddit in a way.... monotonous
I agree, but I think it's more than just the internet. All forms of culture have come to a halt since the turn of the century. Prior to 2000, it seemed like every decade had its own set of styles and trends. Doesn't happen anymore.
Absolutely. It's WAY harder to find things I'm looking for today than it was 10 years ago. WAY harder. Sometimes impossible.
Like you say, bots, bad indexing, index gin propaganda / fake results, extremely heavy handed censor-ship, most communication has been gated into social media giants (forums used to be BIG BIG BIG - All replaced by social media shit).
Some elements of the internet are way cooler and works way better - but the internet as a knowledge sharing / gathering phenomena has declined so much it's almost unbearable.
Yap. it's all been a big lie. everything is just the same shit, just circle around in a drain, coming out the other side from the same drain. sure, there will be some new things here and there from independent people, or people who start things...
I remember playing a game where you were not allowed to touch the keyboard. Just site links to more links. To see where you'd end up at. Always ended up at a UFO site for some reason.
Everything you're saying is true, and half of it is the point I really wanted to make but was too lazy to do.
The fun "wild west" internet we remember from 20+ years ago, is still there, in a way. Back then you could put up a website with whatever information you wanted, and you could participate in the forums without the fear of rampant mobs of SJWs and mainstream media "journalists" wanting to burn your house down for failing to kowtow to whatever new craziness was the hot topic of the day. Everyone involved were reasonably technical people, and the normies were nowhere to be seen.
Today, in addition to that, we also have enormous, well-lit, highly polished, user friendly sheep pens for the masses, where the global normie population is guided into to consuming the narrative and posting pictures of their breakfasts as well as their genitals, and argue wildly as long as they stay inside the Overton window like good little boys and girls. Anyone who fail to say "baah" in either of the permitted ways, is ejected from the pens.
If you ignore all the mainstream systems, what's left is the internet of old. You can still run an irc server and write and host whatever sites you and your peers want - and that is far easier today than it was back then. As long as you don't get an audience larger than what you could have had those 20 years ago, you will be fine - but if you try to reach and threaten the gated communities of big tech, the powers that be will strike you down. Back then you couldn't reach the normies because they weren't on the internet, and today you can't reach them because the global cabal still has global control of them.
I don't think we can have it both ways. Reaching the mainstream isn't about making a good or fun or necessary product, it's about being part of the right club. That's how it was then, and it's how it is now, even though all the details have changed.
go to www.sitescroll.com
new place in the past 2 months and good discussion goes on over there. get off these reddit like sites. this just proves the "dead internet theory". since it's basically JUST LIKE REDDIT, but its NOT reddit.com LOL.
hilarious
Not since 2016 when Obama transferred it to the United Nations so it could become a globalist front?
True! I discovered this years ago. I was searching and couldn't find a single topic which allowed me past 40-50 pages....it was such a sham. They are all duplicates...
Just read about the Dead Internet Theory.
I know it's centered around bots and algorithms running most of the internet. I'd say that's true, but I still believe that there's still a lot of human interaction and discussion going on.
I'm of the personal belief that a lot of the mainstream sites are manipulated with discussion that is pushed by state governments.
We know this because we know China employs people and bots to manipulate public opinion in favor of the government. It's okay to talk about and report about China's evil and manipulative practices (at least for now). It's the states that are using it against us where it's tougher to find information, like the US and Israel.
Aside from governments pushing this practice, I have no doubts that corporations use this practice, as well.
It's just that A LOT of the human interaction has been gated into social media sites.
I agree. I remember fondly searching around and discovering so much information and so many communities that were thriving and active but each unique and purposeful. The ads were barely there and if they were they were typify self hosted and directly managed.
The blogs (before the term was really a thing) were so much better. Hell...even the home websites on the universities were great....
IRC was a jungle and if you wanted to have DMs you could share your messenger or AOL....
Man I miss the golden internet. Centralisation ruined the culture of it.....that's what is missing in my opinion. A collection of cultures...now it's Echo chambers and monoculture everywhere. Even the wins kind of suffer because they feel like Reddit in a way.... monotonous
There are users here who openly admit to having used reddit anytime since 2015. Worse, no one bullies them off the internet.
I agree, but I think it's more than just the internet. All forms of culture have come to a halt since the turn of the century. Prior to 2000, it seemed like every decade had its own set of styles and trends. Doesn't happen anymore.
Absolutely. It's WAY harder to find things I'm looking for today than it was 10 years ago. WAY harder. Sometimes impossible.
Like you say, bots, bad indexing, index gin propaganda / fake results, extremely heavy handed censor-ship, most communication has been gated into social media giants (forums used to be BIG BIG BIG - All replaced by social media shit).
Some elements of the internet are way cooler and works way better - but the internet as a knowledge sharing / gathering phenomena has declined so much it's almost unbearable.
Yap. it's all been a big lie. everything is just the same shit, just circle around in a drain, coming out the other side from the same drain. sure, there will be some new things here and there from independent people, or people who start things...
but a lot of the stuff is just scripted fake shit
they certainly have AOLed the shit out of it
I remember playing a game where you were not allowed to touch the keyboard. Just site links to more links. To see where you'd end up at. Always ended up at a UFO site for some reason.
Everything you're saying is true, and half of it is the point I really wanted to make but was too lazy to do.
The fun "wild west" internet we remember from 20+ years ago, is still there, in a way. Back then you could put up a website with whatever information you wanted, and you could participate in the forums without the fear of rampant mobs of SJWs and mainstream media "journalists" wanting to burn your house down for failing to kowtow to whatever new craziness was the hot topic of the day. Everyone involved were reasonably technical people, and the normies were nowhere to be seen.
Today, in addition to that, we also have enormous, well-lit, highly polished, user friendly sheep pens for the masses, where the global normie population is guided into to consuming the narrative and posting pictures of their breakfasts as well as their genitals, and argue wildly as long as they stay inside the Overton window like good little boys and girls. Anyone who fail to say "baah" in either of the permitted ways, is ejected from the pens.
If you ignore all the mainstream systems, what's left is the internet of old. You can still run an irc server and write and host whatever sites you and your peers want - and that is far easier today than it was back then. As long as you don't get an audience larger than what you could have had those 20 years ago, you will be fine - but if you try to reach and threaten the gated communities of big tech, the powers that be will strike you down. Back then you couldn't reach the normies because they weren't on the internet, and today you can't reach them because the global cabal still has global control of them.
I don't think we can have it both ways. Reaching the mainstream isn't about making a good or fun or necessary product, it's about being part of the right club. That's how it was then, and it's how it is now, even though all the details have changed.
Could this help explain?
https://cultstate.com/2016/08/26/The-Planned-Destruction-of-the-Alt-Right/
There is still porn at least.