Know Thy Talmud #1 (The Talmud Conspiracy)
Know Thy Talmud #3 (What You Need to Know)
If the Talmud is quite evil, surly it must be easy to just link to an online version and cite it talking about how to kill all non-jews, steal from them or enslave them? Actually no, if it was that easy, then everyone on the planet would have already known about the Jewish Talmudic problem, you just can't expect an online Talmud version put up by an ex-google engineer to really put it out on the open now would you?
You can't easily cite the evils in the Talmud for the following reasons:
1-The Talmud is massive, in some prints, well over 20 volumes! And that's just the Babylonian Talmud, there is the Palestinian Talmud (Considered less credible), and there is the mystic version, the Zohar, and there are many, many more books and commentaries or abridged versions. In addition the Talmud (Babylonian), its laws (Mishna) are written in special Hebrew, you can't just study ordinary Hebrew to understand it correctly, the commentary and explanatory parts (Gemara) are written in Aramaic (anyone remember when Israeli ISIS tried to destroy the only city in existence which speaks it (Maaloula, Syria)), The Palestinian Talmud Gemara is written in different form of Aramaic (Western). And I can go on and on, basically it's quite difficult to wade through the Talmud for its size and ancient language, Christian Europe only discovered its evil around the 13th century!! And it happened through the few jewish converts such as (Nicolas Donin, Pablo Christiani, Johannes Pfefferkorn)
Additionally, there has been many disputations, such as the Lwów disputation in September 1759 involving Jacob Frank.
2-Because the Talmud was discovered to be evil on various occasions which led to pogroms and its burnings (France 1242, in addition to Rome and Barcelona); "Clean" or "Expurgated" versions of the Talmud were eventually used while the "original" versions hidden in synagogues. One of the first expurgated versions was one printed in Basil 1578-1581. The versions which contain all the clear references are the Venice version printed in 1520-1523 by Daniel Bomberg, and the Amsterdam version printed in 1644-1648. If you want a hint to know that you are on to something, try buying one of those version or any old Talmud versions for that matter!!!
In short: Due to government and self censorship, all "modern" Talmud versions do not have the exact clear terms, instead they are deleted or renamed with words the Rabbis understand, (Jesus sometimes renamed into "the one whose memory shall be erased" etc..)
If this is the case, then how do we know about its evils? There are still references of those who examined those issues such as: Talmud Unmasked
Additionally there are many books on the subject, unfortunately these books are disappearing by the day! Please do save the info I have written and the PDFs I linked such as the Talmud Unmasked.
So much of this is blatantly false and serves to push the same old tired accusations against Jewish people through, in my opinion, willful and intentional misinterpretation of the Talmud.
The fix is in from the get-go, as you claim that the book is brimming with evil yet this can't be verified because the super secret editions that contain these offensive passages have been hidden away from prying eyes. Well, that's certainly convenient for you.
You cite the prohibitively expensive bidding prices for these early Talmud editions as some sort of proof that truth-seekers are "onto something." If that's the case, what dark secrets of the Illuminati does this first edition Oscar Wilde hold? It's six times the price of the second Talmud you linked, so maybe it's six times as evil? Guess we'll never know.
I'm no expert (and neither are you), but it's clear that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the Talmud is. It's a bit like this messageboard: a matter arises and many people voice their opinions. Every opinion is considered, but some have more authority than others. If you read something like "Talmud Unmasked," you'll see how the conversational structure of the text is used to shape a false claim.
I have no time or interest in going through it to debunk it (and from what I know about this forum, I suspect it would fall on deaf ears), but to pluck something random as an example, I clicked on the section "Christians To Be Harmed Directly." Here, it says:
Even a Christian who is found studying the Law of Israel merits death. In Sanhedrin (59a) it says: "Rabbi Jochanan says: A Goi who pries into the Law is guilty to death."
The actual passage does indeed contain this phrase, but it's incomplete. What follows is a rabbi of higher authority admonishing the previous rabbi for suggesting such a thing and ruling instead that a non-Jew who studies the Torah should be respected and treated as a high priest.
So yeah, it's actually the exact opposite of what "Talmud Unmasked" is suggesting here and I would imagine that it's largely filled with misrepresentations and falsehoods just like this one.
Apologies for the long post, but this is an easy one to call bullshit on.
BTW sorry just a quick addition for you if you ever waste time on the Talmud, again please note that because it is MASSIVE, many contradictory things can be gleaned from it. Someone can make it as a book good for the "goy", others as bad for the "goy", in the Gemara there are many explanations, you can pick whatever you want.
But.... it seems the orthodox rabbis, or jews in control, so called "elite" always pick the worst.
for example occupying Palestine is strictly not allowed in the Talmud and the Torah, it can only happen after the messiah have already come. You are not supposed to hasten his coming, yet due to the influence of Zionism they found some texts which allows it and order it!!! Neturei Karta are actual more accurate and correct about that point
So I tell people the Talmud should be understood as a giant wiki with frontpages and backpages. It has everyone's opinion, and all it goes to show is what opinions existed. In many cases the majority opinion can be found by following the flow, and in some of these cases the majority is regarded as binding on Orthodox Jewish practice, but these are a very small percentage (1%-5%) of the opinions in the Talmud.
Your assertion that the Orthodox pick the worst reading does not seem to be instantiable. I don't believe the Talmud forbids occupation of Palestine prior to Messiah; rather, Ezekiel 36-37 indicates that return to Palestine will happen before Israel understands the Messiah's purpose, and no Talmudic passage will contradict that. The idea you quote is that, since everything is foreknown deterministically by God, it's impossible to "hasten" or "slow" the coming of Messiah by action, but since free will exists it's appropriate to do what is right that will in time bring the coming of Messiah. So if the Talmud speaks of occupying the land of Biblical Israel, it only builds on the Old (and New) Testament prophecies about this.
No worries brother I have read your post, I didn't rely just on the Talmud Unmasked, there are many other sources, some I mentioned, others not, I also have other physical books I am reading which for personal reasons I cannot mention here.
But to be quite honest, I know this is a big shift for you to take on, but you do not need any extensive reading to know the evils of the Talmud. The simple fact that the Talmud was written after Jesus's time, that the Jews consider Jesus an imposter. The fact that the Talmud was written by a large group of people over time. People who for the most part were a minority, all hints to the same conclusions that they have not written quite benevolent things towards Christians.
Add to that the fact of Jewish crimes against Palestinians and how some of them are on record celebrating killing, crippling and maiming Palestinian children. The multitude of reports of Orthodox Jews attacking Christians pastors, how Jews were heavily involved in the slave trade, and on and on.
I realize like all religious people, the Jew does not really know his texts. How much time do you need to study the massive Talmud? But as I assume if you are an Israeli or a Jew, I implore you to do this: Go to an orthodox synagogue preferably those in Jerusalem, and say this: "I always get the feeling that as a jew, there is something distinct about me, something different from the non jew,as if I am on a mission, etc..." Let them spill the bean for you. You will be told how superior you are to the non-jew and how non jews are animals shaped as humans to serve the jews. Don't go to an orthodox from the perspective of many people on the internet are attacking the jews with this claims how can I respond, be sly about it.
The best proof of Talmud content, is the orthodox jew himself!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck5LPh1ORVA
Actually he is mistaken, the correct number is 2820 slaves!
Quick note: Do you know that many Jewish women in israel cannot get a divorce because the Talmud says only the man can divorce? A large amount of suffering was caused by this.
I'm not commenting on the war much while it's in progress because I think its conclusion will indicate the judgments to be made. It's obvious that anyone in war celebrates the defeat of the enemy, and sometimes soldiers go overboard compared to mature moral judgment, so I don't take war drama as proving much.
The legal status of Christians in Israel is a valid criticism; the historical involvement of Jews in dehumanizing trades is a criticism; these can be traced to the Talmudic period without any need to misrepresent the text. The Christian Bible saying that it is a man's prerogative to write a divorce decree (Deut. 24:1-4) is a different method of handling divorce than our own, and has its criticisms, but Jesus affirmed it and our own doesn't seem to have removed suffering.
To answer your other question, some Jews make a schedule to read one page of Talmud a day, which takes about seven years.
I've pointed out that the correct number of slaves is indeed 2,800, found in Shabbat 32b: "Anyone who is vigilant in ritual fringes merits two thousand eight hundred servants will serve him." This is an imaginative reading of Zech. 8:23 (10 men, 70 nations, 4 fringes) and as such the correct reading is promised to every grafted-in covenant believer. Whatever Zechariah means for the future destiny of the Christian in commanding the allegiance of others, I claim for myself. So the Jewish tradition making this out to be 2,800 slaves is just one interpretation that might apply to all true believers in God.
Your video is useful in showing how these thoughts are applied in Orthodoxy, but it's clear that they are being contextualized as well along the lines I describe. The unbeliever is not as humane as the believer; the believer benefits from the many labors of many people around the world; the believer hopes for a kingly lifestyle in a future heaven on earth. If we were to compare these hopes to other eschatological views in other religions we would find nothing surprising. Context is the necessity.