Shortly - during revolution, normal food chains was broken and cities fall to starvation. Red Army too. That could lead to counter-revolution. Jews who lead revolution (Trotsky, Tuchachevsky and others) jusr rob farmers completely, leaving farmers with no seed to sow or cattle to breed. Jews do not care about goym, you know. So, on the next year, there was nothing to eat. A lot of people die. To "fix" that, collective farms was organized, again with farmers robbery, with same result - starvation. Authorities created laws with death sentence even for "three spikes of wheat" to get as many food for cities and army as possible. That does not works too. Eventually Stalin who finally got the full power shoot the jewish top commanders and ministers who did all that madness, relax anti-farmers laws and things returned to normal in late 1930-s. Food shortages was defeated and people stop to starve.
Really it is not clear if it was intentional attempt of goyim genocide or they just was so dumb to understand what will be the result of total farmers robbery, but in any case, actions of Jewish revolution leaders definitely killed millions of Russians, Belorussians and Ukrainians.
There are no theories that above did not happened. Also, I didn;t meet any theories that it was not Jews. Question is only in numbers of dead. Say, was it 100 millions or 10 millions. Also some believe that Stalin participated in it from the beginning, but then quit and turned against his jewish comrades, and some believe that Stalin was against from the beginning, but had no power to oppose.
There definitely was warehouses full of food for authorities, but was it for all state bureaucrats or just for the top ones, I don't know.
Red Army had supply better than cities, but that was not complete too. However, even that small difference was used to attract more people to the military service.
you seem knowledgeable on the subject, what was the deal with Stalin anyway? was he as evil as history would have us believe. im only asking because I find myself questioning alot of what we've been taught over the years
Stalin was totalitarian leader, whose main goal was building a powerful empire. He does not take into account human lives and tried to get his goal at any cost. However, since his goal was not a personal wealth, sometimes his actions made life of people better. Do you know, f.e. that during Stalin years smoothbore guns sold at homedepots along with spades and hammers without any papers? And immidiately after his death Russians was robbed of the right to have a gun. It's very strange along with his cruelty and totalitarian nature. All in all, eventually he build his empire, and Russia become first world country (at the time) with aerospace, nuclear bomb, advanced science, total education and relatevely healthy population under his control, despite all wars, misfortune and disasters. That cost a lot of lifes, but not all of them are on him. He definitely was not the best possible ruler, but I think he was not the worse. Hard to tell, but I think that if, f.e. Trotsky took over in 1930-s, things could be much worse for country and people.
I can't tell who Stalin really was, but he definitely was the real and independent historic figure, unlike modern politicians.
In Russia, some people worship him, some hate him, there is no any definite attitude.
Sorry, but your comment about weapons is simply false. In 1918 the CPC passed law confiscating all weapons from the public. Only Party members were allowed to retain a single smoothbore weapon, which had to be registered. In 1924 the gun laws were further restricted allowing party members to own only smoothbore hunting shotguns with 3 round chambers or less, and all other guns were confiscated. Those hunting shotguns had to be registered both with the local and National party, two separate registrations, with a 10-year sentence for any failure.
During the war, these registered smoothbore weapons were all confiscated by the state to be handed to the Red Army. Stalinist Russia had some of the tightest gun restrictions on the planet at the time.
When Stalin died in 53, the laws were loosened, slightly, allowing smoothbore hunting weapons without registration, but that ended when Khrushchev died and the Stalinist gun laws were reimposed.
Definitely should burn old photos of my ancestors with backgrounds showing a house walls with guns openly hanging and ones with boys shooting cans from early 1950-s. Also have to forget family stories. Because somebody in internet read some articles in internet about how draconian was laws in the past.
You never heard about continious rewriting of the official history, especially in Russia, Didn't you?
Sport, the plural of anecdote is not data. I don’t care what you claim your family has or doesn’t have in pictures.
And by all means, if you have evidence these primary sourced laws I cited are ‘rewritten’ then by all means demonstrate it. But you claiming history gets rewritten does not give you license to rewrite it yourself.
May be. I don't know for shure. People in cities didn't starved so hard and long as people in rural areas. Trotsky and Co could just destroy robbed food, to make cities starve to death too. Or may be they want to kill as many farmers as possibe for some purpose.
As for communist recipe - nobody starved in USSR from late 1940-s until late 1980-s. May be we had no unlimited choice of brands like West, but there was more than enough food to be full. Also, interesting that USSR does not have fast food type of meal, so Russians still less obese than people in western countries. Yes, we had ice-cream kiosks, you could get a cup of tea or coffe with pie in cafe, we even had hot-dogs, but when it comes to dinner, we had, idk how to translate correctly, say, cheap restaurants without waiters where we could get normal food for nice price. Every factory, school and university had own restaurants of that type to feed people. We had normal restaurants too, but they was pricely for everyday usage. Suppers and breakfasts we usually had at home, with home-cooked food. We definitely not starved at all under completely communist regime. Only when it start to crush, due to rise of liberalisation, food shortages began. And that shortages was definitely intentional, I was a
direct witness, along with all other people of how they was organised and directed.
Depends on what you think Holodomor was.
Shortly - during revolution, normal food chains was broken and cities fall to starvation. Red Army too. That could lead to counter-revolution. Jews who lead revolution (Trotsky, Tuchachevsky and others) jusr rob farmers completely, leaving farmers with no seed to sow or cattle to breed. Jews do not care about goym, you know. So, on the next year, there was nothing to eat. A lot of people die. To "fix" that, collective farms was organized, again with farmers robbery, with same result - starvation. Authorities created laws with death sentence even for "three spikes of wheat" to get as many food for cities and army as possible. That does not works too. Eventually Stalin who finally got the full power shoot the jewish top commanders and ministers who did all that madness, relax anti-farmers laws and things returned to normal in late 1930-s. Food shortages was defeated and people stop to starve.
Really it is not clear if it was intentional attempt of goyim genocide or they just was so dumb to understand what will be the result of total farmers robbery, but in any case, actions of Jewish revolution leaders definitely killed millions of Russians, Belorussians and Ukrainians.
There are no theories that above did not happened. Also, I didn;t meet any theories that it was not Jews. Question is only in numbers of dead. Say, was it 100 millions or 10 millions. Also some believe that Stalin participated in it from the beginning, but then quit and turned against his jewish comrades, and some believe that Stalin was against from the beginning, but had no power to oppose.
Something like that...
There definitely was warehouses full of food for authorities, but was it for all state bureaucrats or just for the top ones, I don't know.
Red Army had supply better than cities, but that was not complete too. However, even that small difference was used to attract more people to the military service.
you seem knowledgeable on the subject, what was the deal with Stalin anyway? was he as evil as history would have us believe. im only asking because I find myself questioning alot of what we've been taught over the years
Stalin was totalitarian leader, whose main goal was building a powerful empire. He does not take into account human lives and tried to get his goal at any cost. However, since his goal was not a personal wealth, sometimes his actions made life of people better. Do you know, f.e. that during Stalin years smoothbore guns sold at homedepots along with spades and hammers without any papers? And immidiately after his death Russians was robbed of the right to have a gun. It's very strange along with his cruelty and totalitarian nature. All in all, eventually he build his empire, and Russia become first world country (at the time) with aerospace, nuclear bomb, advanced science, total education and relatevely healthy population under his control, despite all wars, misfortune and disasters. That cost a lot of lifes, but not all of them are on him. He definitely was not the best possible ruler, but I think he was not the worse. Hard to tell, but I think that if, f.e. Trotsky took over in 1930-s, things could be much worse for country and people.
I can't tell who Stalin really was, but he definitely was the real and independent historic figure, unlike modern politicians.
In Russia, some people worship him, some hate him, there is no any definite attitude.
Sorry, but your comment about weapons is simply false. In 1918 the CPC passed law confiscating all weapons from the public. Only Party members were allowed to retain a single smoothbore weapon, which had to be registered. In 1924 the gun laws were further restricted allowing party members to own only smoothbore hunting shotguns with 3 round chambers or less, and all other guns were confiscated. Those hunting shotguns had to be registered both with the local and National party, two separate registrations, with a 10-year sentence for any failure.
During the war, these registered smoothbore weapons were all confiscated by the state to be handed to the Red Army. Stalinist Russia had some of the tightest gun restrictions on the planet at the time.
When Stalin died in 53, the laws were loosened, slightly, allowing smoothbore hunting weapons without registration, but that ended when Khrushchev died and the Stalinist gun laws were reimposed.
Definitely should burn old photos of my ancestors with backgrounds showing a house walls with guns openly hanging and ones with boys shooting cans from early 1950-s. Also have to forget family stories. Because somebody in internet read some articles in internet about how draconian was laws in the past.
You never heard about continious rewriting of the official history, especially in Russia, Didn't you?
Sport, the plural of anecdote is not data. I don’t care what you claim your family has or doesn’t have in pictures.
And by all means, if you have evidence these primary sourced laws I cited are ‘rewritten’ then by all means demonstrate it. But you claiming history gets rewritten does not give you license to rewrite it yourself.
May be. I don't know for shure. People in cities didn't starved so hard and long as people in rural areas. Trotsky and Co could just destroy robbed food, to make cities starve to death too. Or may be they want to kill as many farmers as possibe for some purpose.
As for communist recipe - nobody starved in USSR from late 1940-s until late 1980-s. May be we had no unlimited choice of brands like West, but there was more than enough food to be full. Also, interesting that USSR does not have fast food type of meal, so Russians still less obese than people in western countries. Yes, we had ice-cream kiosks, you could get a cup of tea or coffe with pie in cafe, we even had hot-dogs, but when it comes to dinner, we had, idk how to translate correctly, say, cheap restaurants without waiters where we could get normal food for nice price. Every factory, school and university had own restaurants of that type to feed people. We had normal restaurants too, but they was pricely for everyday usage. Suppers and breakfasts we usually had at home, with home-cooked food. We definitely not starved at all under completely communist regime. Only when it start to crush, due to rise of liberalisation, food shortages began. And that shortages was definitely intentional, I was a direct witness, along with all other people of how they was organised and directed.
It happened... the hungry ghosts are still there...