I mean "pointless" in a scientific way. It does not matter could you replicate, check or verify that stories, and I doubt anybody want to. Sometimes you just need somebody who will listen that and empathize/support you. That is the main purpose of that stories. Empathy, reminder, support, etc. Not the information or exact details. But the wistleblower stories, like the one mentioned here, have completely different purpose - to share the infomation, not to meditate on how your life fucked and on that you are not alone.
That is the contradiction I find very interesting and disturbing. Some storytelling in the circle of witnesses of something unusual instead of providing information useful for further unraveling of the mistery.
I'm glad you find enough will and friends to abandon the thing that destroyed you, but here we want to do something completely different - not to abandon, but to get as close as possible to study and research all that things they hide from us.
I love you and I have absolutely no problem with autists but this is a slightly out of touch response.
The stories in AA/NA don’t have to be factual or perfect depictions of reality. A crack whore coming into group may lie about how badly they’ve compromised their body to get drugs at first. That’s okay. A former drug dealer may embellish some details of their former life, that’s okay.
The circle of group therapy is a sounding board to be heard and to hear. You can learn from other people fact or fiction, sometimes you learn what to do, sometimes you learn what not to do.
I get the comparison you’re trying to make but it’s not a super valid comparison and it lacks a understanding of the purpose of those groups.
Thanks for the congratulations though, 5 years clean off of opiates. I’m leaner happier and healthier.
I think a lot of those groups the success is more of in the desire to change and actively do something about it than much of the other pieces.
I know the purpose of groups and believe me, I have absolutely nothing against them, or the people who find that way to help each other. Also, I'm not a native English speaker, and may be sometimes my words are not perfectly choosen, but I am trying. :) I didn't mean that group stories pointless at all, I just tried to show a weird misfit of group story type when it told by wistleblower.
Just imagine somebody came to the group and began to
monotonously describe the exact composition and the process of making the shit he addicted to. That story will be completely pointless for the group and for speaker itself. You will be puzzled at least. That is how I feel when I read stories like in OP on conspiracy.win.
I mean "pointless" in a scientific way. It does not matter could you replicate, check or verify that stories, and I doubt anybody want to. Sometimes you just need somebody who will listen that and empathize/support you. That is the main purpose of that stories. Empathy, reminder, support, etc. Not the information or exact details. But the wistleblower stories, like the one mentioned here, have completely different purpose - to share the infomation, not to meditate on how your life fucked and on that you are not alone.
That is the contradiction I find very interesting and disturbing. Some storytelling in the circle of witnesses of something unusual instead of providing information useful for further unraveling of the mistery.
I'm glad you find enough will and friends to abandon the thing that destroyed you, but here we want to do something completely different - not to abandon, but to get as close as possible to study and research all that things they hide from us.
I love you and I have absolutely no problem with autists but this is a slightly out of touch response.
The stories in AA/NA don’t have to be factual or perfect depictions of reality. A crack whore coming into group may lie about how badly they’ve compromised their body to get drugs at first. That’s okay. A former drug dealer may embellish some details of their former life, that’s okay. The circle of group therapy is a sounding board to be heard and to hear. You can learn from other people fact or fiction, sometimes you learn what to do, sometimes you learn what not to do.
I get the comparison you’re trying to make but it’s not a super valid comparison and it lacks a understanding of the purpose of those groups.
Thanks for the congratulations though, 5 years clean off of opiates. I’m leaner happier and healthier.
I think a lot of those groups the success is more of in the desire to change and actively do something about it than much of the other pieces.
I know the purpose of groups and believe me, I have absolutely nothing against them, or the people who find that way to help each other. Also, I'm not a native English speaker, and may be sometimes my words are not perfectly choosen, but I am trying. :) I didn't mean that group stories pointless at all, I just tried to show a weird misfit of group story type when it told by wistleblower.
Just imagine somebody came to the group and began to monotonously describe the exact composition and the process of making the shit he addicted to. That story will be completely pointless for the group and for speaker itself. You will be puzzled at least. That is how I feel when I read stories like in OP on conspiracy.win.
Well honestly for a second language you are doing great. I appreciate you letting me know lol.