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posted 4 years ago by JollyJoker 4 years ago by JollyJoker +16 / -0
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– CrazyRussian 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Sounding like "not so perfect" Russian ?

Not so far from bureaucratic language, but looks much more like automatic translation. It is easy to check - I tried to google translate it to English and back to Russian and again to English - it does not change. Interesting, that even some Russian laws and executive orders have the same property. Last things I check was miscellaneous coronahoax orders. Funniest things is when in some Russian laws some, say, list of town names sorted in latin alphabetic order, not in cyrillic. This definitely means that the source of that law was prepared by a person who use latin alphabet as native one.

Also, usually in Russian bureaucratic language links to some annexes/summplements/appondixes usually look like "(См. Прил. 5 п.5)", i.e. specifically abbreviated and never like long in-bracket title copies. At least, that "См." abbreviation of "Смотри" ("See") at the beginning of the link is a must.

Of course, clessified documents have some specific markings and bits on every page, but that photo show only part of page, so it is hard to say, are there any attributes of classified document here or not.

However, it is not completely impossible for Russia three-letter agencies to have some plans to interfere with USA internal politics. Just like for USA three-letter agencies to interfere with Russian internal politics. Russia even create RT (Russia Today) "news agency" to do that. Interesting, that some of english RT articles will be violently censored if they will appear in russain mass-media. :)

But all that game is definitely directed from single source, and both USA and Russia states obliged to obey that single source completely.

I also would not be surprised at all if it will appear that some bureaucrats in Russian GRU/FSB received some english text from TPTB, translated it using computer translator and created some "Russian" classified document and leaked it to western press by order.

As for overall "Putin support Trump" narrative, Putin will support anybody who will not be a threat for his real wealth hidden in the West and his power in Russia. Absolutely nothing changed when Biden comes after Trump as president of USA. The only russian politician who openly spoke against Trump censoring in social media was Navalny, who is now in jail for opposing Putin, with obvious help of Navalny's liberal "supporters" who went mad for Navalny's anticensorship position.

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– cee8hooz 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Also, usually in Russian bureaucratic language links to some annexes/summplements/appondixes usually look like "(См. Прил. 5 п.5)", i.e. specifically abbreviated and never like long in-bracket title copies. At least, that "См." abbreviation of "Смотри" ("See") at the beginning of the link is a must.

Exactly I was expecting SUCH thing. Thank you.

but that photo show only part of page, so it is hard to say, are there any attributes of classified document here or not.

Expect the fact doing the photo with such manner is hard,and 2 pages with page indexes above but without confidential/secret marks... All "important" information being on the top of the document and nothing more leaked in it ? Or it is strange accident or it is fake. (How I know about how shall look secret documents ? Well, I was doing some homework for person studying "national security" to earn some cash.It was about legal rules about confidential and secret document protection, quite boring thing)

Interesting, that some of english RT articles will be violently censored if they will appear in russain mass-media. :)

Intoxication with your own propaganda is dangerous :)

Interesting, that even some Russian laws and executive orders have the same property. Last things I check was miscellaneous coronahoax orders.

Even if Putin isn't completely controlled by globalists - his "friends" Jewish oligarchs are at least a bit.I think in case of Russia the only difference in comparison to Poland (where I live) Jewish and any other foreign fraction (I think we have Jewish and German fractions in Polish politics) is not dominating one. Russia is controlled mainly by former KGB. Probably. Maybe Zhukov (Жуков) coup and shooting Beria weakened Jewish fraction at least a bit...

Surely Russia is influenced by Jewish lobby. What other - I don't know. Interesting influence over your country may have Chinese one and question how strong it is. Also level of internal corruption of Russia would be interesting question. (Just thieves or also traitors ? And who exactly)

I suspect those "document" not exists,just another one British fake. After Scripal survived "nerve gas" novichok,and Navalny "was poisoned with it too" XD (Come on,it was said to be made in Russia not made in China XD ),and our American friends should take care about those BRITISH collusion.

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– CrazyRussian 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

All "important" information being on the top of the document and nothing more leaked in it ?

This is a red flag for any "leak". If only part of "leaked" document published, there is something wrong. There can't be any reason to not to publish "leaked" document entirely.

Russia is controlled mainly by former KGB. Probably. Maybe Zhukov (Жуков) coup and shooting Beria weakened Jewish fraction at least a bit...

It's a mix - VCHK-KGB-FSB was and is mostly Jewish structure. Stalin/Zhukov/etc. tried to push out the Jews from it (not because of some conscious intent to get rid of jews, but just because their plans was not aligned with Jewish ones), but finally failed. Andropov being pure Jew leaded KGB for many years, f.e.. Nothing changed really.

Also level of internal corruption of Russia would be interesting question. (Just thieves or also traitors ? And who exactly)

Both. But I don't think they could be named "traitors". Every Jew consider Israel as motherland. Russia as any other country is just a legal target for robbing for them.

I suspect those "document" not exists,just another one British fake.

It does not matter, really, It is not a problem for TPTB to create any official document of any country with all necessary attributes and legal path.

After Scripal survived "nerve gas" novichok,and Navalny "was poisoned with it too" XD (Come on,it was said to be made in Russia not made in China XD ),

It could be true that FSB tried to poison some opponents of Russian athorities and traitors. And they could really use that old Novichok substance. There are no any competent specialists in that three-letter state structures in Russia for a long time. Negative selection and miserable salary for specialists did its job. So it is not hard to imagine that dumb but servile employees after the order to "do something with Navalny", just took that outdated Novichok from storage facility without knowledge of it's real properties and tried to apply it to targets, thinking that it is the good way to do the job. With all their stupidity and diligence.

As for Navalny, there is much more interesting thing to think about. Navalny main idea was to strike Putin & Co on their western wallets. Not so long before the whole story begans, EU issued a law on non-conviction confiscations, applied mostly to the relatives of Italian mafia and other criminals. Lot of villas and other assets was confiscated or destroyed for the links to the mafia. Looks like he had some agreement with western authorities, that if he publish some proofs of connections between enormous western assets to the families and friends of Russian top bureaucrats and oligarchs, they could apply that law and confiscate assets as acquired through corruption and criminal. May be western authorities even help him to find all that stuff and evidences. But along publishing all necessary information, Navalny did or say something "wrong" and West immidiately break all agreements. Nothing was confiscated, no residence permits was revoked, etc. And even Navalny's associates turn against him for that "thought crime". Or may be western authorities just come to conclusion that Putin is preferrable as Russia leader than somebody unpredictable like Navalny. I would not be surprised if it was a western order to "do something with Navalny" for FSB, when Navalny, f.e. occasionally dig out enormous number of proofs and links of close connection between western establishment and Russian corruption.

and our American friends should take care about those BRITISH collusion.

I think it is much wider than just British. Klaus Schwab is not British, and all that Gates/Rockfellers/Rotshilds/etc. too. GB could be just one of their strongholds.

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