Facts of real physics should be our primary method to determine the world's shape👍
✅Water at rest is level. ✅Spinning balls produce centrifugal force. ✅Air can NOT sync speeds over a moving surface. ✅Chicago is visible from 50 miles. ✅I can go on, and on, and on.
It is tiresome to see the same lame arguments trotted out again and again for the globe, especially those that depend on iffy sources (government agencies). The as told model is not correct, is not factual, is made up and synthesized and you're basing your belief on the made up "social proofs" and video testimonials.
Many cowards have committed to the legacy globe model so hard they will never admit they are wrong even if they know it isn't true. Others are too stupid to realize they've been tricked.
When a man comes face to face with a conspiracy so big, so earth shattering and outrageous, he becomes paralyzed and cannot accept it, even though it's staring him right in the face.
Flat Earth is the biggest one people can't grasp, everyone who is into flat earth was at first a hardcore Nasa fan boy.
Flat earth also brings you back to the most high. Conspiracy leads to spirituality.
Water at rest is level, yes, but the oceans are curved because of gravitation. The same force that keeps you on the ground also keeps the water on the surface of our spherical earth. For what it's worth, the water does maintain a level layer all the way around that we call "sea level".
Yes, also true, but our globe is not "spinning" as fast as you think. It makes one revolution every 24 hours. Try spinning a ball at that speed and let me know how much centrifugal force it generates.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Are you claiming the air couldn't keep up with the rotation of the earth? Air has mass and viscosity and behaves like a fluid. If you have a bucket of water and you start to rotate it, the water will begin to rotate also. The whole atmosphere is rotating along with the earth.
I've never heard this one before, but it seems unlikely. If it's indeed possible, then why Chicago? There has to be more to this claim.
Thank you for the mainstream answers. They all fail unfortunately.
The oceans in no way curve.
If we were spinning at 1000 miles per hour, despite only being 1 revolution per day, the edge velocity would be so great almost nothing would be able to withstand this force, it would rip you apart. If you need to understand think of a merry-go-round, the entire thing spins at a speed, however if you are in the center it is much more peaceful compared to the outside which wants to throw you off.
Chicago is visible from 50 miles away. Go confirm like others for yourself https://youtu.be/awtnTSGkcAo.
Do you believe in the gravitational force? There has to be some force that pulls everything downward. If you believe in that, why is it so difficult to accept that the same force is able to pull water downward to a curved surface?
A merry-go-round spinning one revolution per day would not be very fun for the children because there would be no sense of motion. The size of the spinning object doesn't matter. You're confusing angular velocity with linear velocity.
A merry go round with a diameter of 7,917 miles at one revolution per day would be traveling roughly 1000 miles per hour at the edge (just like earths alleged spin).
You can go simulate this on a large merry go round, whether you are in the center at 1 revolution every 5 seconds or on the outside will determine how much centripetal force you will experience. The further to the outside the greater the force.
Fc=mv²/r. The centripetal force is equal to mass times velocity², divided by the radius.
Is there a downward acceleration? Maybe, it's debatable. I am open to finding this truth.
The moons "gravity" affecting the tides moving trillions of tons of water daily, but I am not being flung through the air like a rag doll, tells me the model we're preached is not accurate.
"determine how much centripetal force you will experience. "
Hey, shit for brains; a jet travels at 500 MPH - do you feel acceleration or centrifugal force while at cruise? NO fuck wit.
The problem with you is you think you are trying to uncover some grand conspiracy but the real discovery you should be making is why you turned out to be such a beta male retard.
Damn you're dumb. Are you changing direction in a jet? You should feel that force if you were going around a curve you would float upwards. I'm far from a beta male faggot
Yeah, I'm dumb along with 100% of every other educated person. You? You literally have ZERO-educated people who agree with you. Just think about that for 1 second. Not one person with any credibility has stepped forward to agree with your side.
Think about what you are saying. It is undeniable that you do not 'feel' acceleration or any effect at all in a jet at cruise because you are both moving together. The same principle applies to you being held down to the ground on a spinning ball.
How do I know this is true? Because it's happening to me and you right now. If you seriously think we are on a flat stationary disc you are a Biden voter and a beta male. Alpha males educate themselves and understand reason.
Other forums there's plenty. Too many zogshills like yourself here. Lmao.
could this simply be solved with someone building or moving a very powerful telescope to a beach and trying to look across the ocean? I am not sure the amount of money it would cost honestly but if we have telescopes that can see with precision the moon would that not suffice for this type of experiment? seems pretty simple to me. Another alternative would be a laser. Place a reflector on the beach of a place and shine a laser at it. Again if we can do this with the moon we should be able to do this with a sea or ocean of sufficient length. One could even hype it up get people to gather on each side of the body of water. All sorts of things. Seems to me either model should be easy to prove and not require mega money or government participation to do.
Thinking about it, in some places one might even be able to find a long enough stretch of highway to do a test. Again no mega money or government needed. The test would then be repeatable and verifiable by anybody.
People done so. Light test over a frozen lake with 4 lights set up, furthest light at 8 miles away, closest light at 5 miles away. Camera set up 12.7 inches over the lake, lights at 1 foot over the lake. All lights came out at a flat plain. Absolutely no curvature detected.
https://youtu.be/V-afsjBwP38
My suggestion, do these sorts of experiments yourself, all you are going to find is that earth is flat.
This is why you idiots fail every time; in the linked video;
Light does not travel in a linear plane - it spread out like a cone.
At 1:51 you can clearly see that the furthest light away is only partially visible compared to the closer lights
If the earth was truly flat all lights would be equally as bright. At 1:51 they are NOT equal because the furthest one is reduced in height because of the curvature of the earth
Someone actually made this video thinking they were smart, but just provided evidence of the curve.
Morons.
Try going to 1:52 and the farthest one is more bright then the other ones again.
https://ibb.co/ZSHXwwh
You can clearly see, even at 1:52 that the furthest light is only 1/2 the 'size' of the closer light. more than 1/2 the light is behind the curve. If the plane was truly flat, all lights would appear equal. They are clearly not.
For you not to see this is just you being obtusely ignorant.
Oh now half the light is behind a curve, how about that. You know that the further away a object gets, the smaller it gets, it is called perspective, you should look into that.
The furthest light source can clearly be seen to be missing the bottom half. If only perspective, the light would simply be smaller. The video has all lights with the same 'spread' but the furthest is being cut off by the curve. So you fail on all accounts. Sorry, buddy but you fail.
Science is a bitch when you're too stupid to think or use control parameters in your experiment. I already told you that non-scientific people jump to conclusions that are lame as fuck. Science is all about "what happened" + "why" + "can it be repeated"
So; first off;
Doing the experiment at night, when you can't see the effects of refraction on the surrounding terrain.
Measuring close to the ground, where the effects are refraction is greatest
Doing it over ice (or near-freezing water), well known for creating strange optical effects
What is refraction? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLzdQFU3Og&t=235s
Why can't you see the bottom of these buildings? https://www.metabunk.org/attachments/jenna-beach-b-jpg.26312/
No it is not that simple. Water and dirt and pollen etc will cause refraction.. some days visibility is very poor only can see about 2-3 miles, and then sometimes you can see 25-40 miles or more, much more. If there's a tropical storm nearby for example you can see stupidly far because all of the moisture and etc are getting sucked into the storm (right before and right after it passes). Cooler days are better for distance. Hot humid days are terrible usually. Eventually enough moisture in the air will prevent you from seeing any further.
So then set it up and leave it up and even connect it to a live stream on the internet. It would prove so many points then. It could also answer the following questions:
Honestly this could be done with crowdfunding and would be really informative. As well it would be a good resource to reference if it was all above board. Publish professional quality schematics and an accurate audit of the cost of items used. A form section could be included for discussions and explanations.
The entire thing could be treated like a big science experiment. One might consider not even phrasing it as a Flat Earth proof text but simply a "Experiment on visibility of the horizon from the edge of the sea/ocean."
If one did an empirical based experiment that was repeatable and transparent in everything it did then that might encourage others to do similar things with other things. One might even consider not posting that it "proves" anything and let people come to the conclusions themselves.
That's not a bad idea I have saved this in my notes. You need a few reference points in the background you can see (specifically a water height marker for when the tides change, most cargo ships have markers as well on the side that work as a good reference also). Another thing would be determining when to activate the zoom. With a p1000 if you look at the wrong time you will just zoom into what appears to be fog, or refraction/mirage.
I'll save you the bother;
https://calgaryvisioncentre.com/news/2017/6/23/tdgft1bsbdlm8496ov7tn73kr0ci1q
"Water at rest is level"
That's great because then to clean my granite countertops I only need one drop of cleaner in the center which will then become level and cover the entire surface. My wife will be so happy when I tell her she has enough 409 Granite for several lifetimes because that stuff is hard to find!
Large bodies of water
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Eratosthenes
The irony is palpable
None of what you said has anything to do with the shape of the earth.
You just repeated your irrelevant points.
Good
You have no credibility, zero education, total lack validation of your moronic assumptions and simply do not understand the basics of physics and motion mechanics. You cite 'iffy sources' yet all you do is spread fake ass videos made by other idiots who think everything is some grand matrix simulation or whatever the fuck you think.
You don't have one educated and trained astro, geo or ANY physicist admit the earth is flat - gee why?
You will never find support by ONE person with any formal training or ANY science degree to support your theory. Why? Are they all in on it?
What's staring me in the face is the undeniable fact is that you are a fucking idiot.
https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/flat-earth-funny-memes-28-5b325364901bf__700.jpg
Without a science degree I cannot do science? Lmao. It doesn't take a "special trained" scientist to do math and make observations and come up with conclusions. I have proved to myself, I can tell you how you can do the same but you just refuse or you're just a shill right?
You're the idiot for ignoring the information if you're not a shill.
Go buy the p1000 camera, go to a large body of resting water and test yourself. Repeating the mainstream flat earth debunking tag lines, which aren't even true, gives you no credibility. Have you done this?
You are the clueless one, not me.
Do know why you use an actual scientist with a degree to find scientific results? Because amateurs like you use a p1000 camera, see the tops of buildings off in the distance, and claim the earth is flat. Then, they do not understand WHAT they are seeing and jump to conclusions without a shred of empirical observation that can be proven as fact. Yes, people like you are fucking idiots who think they are smart but really have no clue. How do I know this? Because the earth is a fucking round ball just like 100% of every other celestial body in the ENTIRE fucking universe. For anyone to think we are on a flat plane is the essence of a clueless 1/2 wit.
Again, put your retarded claims to the test and show me ONE person with a formal education that thinks the earth is flat. You can't. This is how I know. No one is with you besides other fuck wits.
Nope, faggot
I win again. When in doubt, losers resort to name-calling because they have nothing intelligent to respind with.
It's so easy to make you fail time and time again. You are batting 1000% fail every time.