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Homopratensis2 2 points ago +3 / -1

You can't see any virus with an optical microscope.

I have personally done antibody tests for SARS CoV2. It's real. Just extremely overblown (false positives and flu got lumped in) and very treatable.

Vaccine unnecessary.

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pkvi [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1
  1. Didn't explicitly say optical microscope.

  2. You are more than welcome to post on this site all the explicit details of your antibody tests bcuz we have seen plenty of evidence from researchers claiming they have never seen SARS2 in a sample bcuz its never been isolated.

Aym certain that mods u/clemaneuverers and u/axolotl_peyotl would potentially pin it too if you posted in explicit details your information verifying SARS2 having existed and NOT being simply pre-defined results corroborated with PCR tests, ie defining a Kary Mullis said, anything with whatever is defined.

Please, post a long winded post, we will all be thoroughly invested in your data.

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Homopratensis2 0 points ago +2 / -2

The picture is of an optical microscope and text references slides, which are used on optical microscopes, which happen to be useless for seeing viruses.

I am not doing PCR tests. Those are, as you may know, prone to very high false positive errors, especially if the thermocycle number is over 30 or so. Recently the CDC issued guidance to use 28 cycles.

The antibody tests are a solid phase type assay and can bind 4 subunits of the spike protein. We also have a test that binds the nucleocapsid, the presence of which distinguishes vaccine immunity from natural. Only natural immunity shows anti-nucleocapsid antibodies. Natural immunity may be better for this reason.

Since you know everything already I'm sure you have nothing to gain from long winded post.

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axolotl_peyotl 1 point ago +1 / -0

The antibody tests are a solid phase type assay

FDA reverses itself, rejects COVID antibody test results: "Results from SARS-CoV-2 antibody tests should NOT be used to evaluate immunity or protection from COVID-19 at any time, esp. after the person received a COVID-19 vaccination."

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Homopratensis2 2 points ago +2 / -0

They've flopped back and forth. The simple truth is there is no other practical way to establish immunity. Like re-defining herd immunity as only a very as a certain number of vaccinated people, the not using antibody tests for establishing immunity makes it so those who got covid and recovered can't use that to assert immunity.

Ironically this is after a year of doing antibody testing to established convalescent plasma donors...and plasma therapy worked somewhat.

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v8power 1 point ago +1 / -0

Only natural immunity shows anti-nucleocapsid antibodies. Natural immunity may be better for this reason.

The mRNA "vaccines" are "tuned" to the COVID spike protein, so perhaps that explains a higher effectiveness than natural immunity right now, but I have a hypothesis that this greater effectiveness might be short term and the natural immunity is better long term due to a possibly better ability to respond to mutations. Is that your feeling/understanding?

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axolotl_peyotl 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have personally done antibody tests for SARS CoV2. It's real.

Bruh. COVID is a hoax. The "antibody" tests are an absolute farce.

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Homopratensis2 1 point ago +2 / -1

How would you know?

You guys are going off the deep end here.

It's real. It's was planned most likely. Meant to usher in the great reset probably.

But it is a real virus.

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axolotl_peyotl 1 point ago +1 / -0

But it is a real virus.

Sounds like something a religious fanatic would repeat to themselves ad nauseum.

What would you do if you found out it's completely fake? It's a computer-generated virus. It never existed.

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Homopratensis2 1 point ago +1 / -0

Whatever. The virus deniers I lump in with flat earth etc. Not worth engaging and you make principled people opposed to mandatory vaccination look stupid. I am begining to think you all are a disinfo psy-op to cripple intelligent opposition with your nonsense.

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v8power 1 point ago +1 / -0

I like the way you think.

I have a question about this:

[The virus was] meant to usher in the great reset probably

Reset what? It kills less than 1% of those who catch it.

In a dark way, there would be less of a burden on Social Security if everyone caught it.

Although, our society would have been stressed with the extra sick and dead.

Answering my own question: people would have cried out and probably ushered in a whole new leadership if the virus killed more people than it did. It could have been a "great reset" - but of leadership (at first - ramifications of new leadership afterwards).

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Homopratensis2 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think it's mostly to provide an excuse for massive government overreach/authoritarianism, further sureveilance, etc.

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Sclerotia 1 point ago +1 / -0

They are using this to shut down the globe and demandd access to your body with step one being the vax. Using a deadlier virus would be dangerous.