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Gates and Buffett to create a new kind of nuclear reactor in Wyoming -- they purposefully say "Natrium" instead of Sodium for some reason (www.theguardian.com)
posted 4 years ago by MediaMadeMe 4 years ago by MediaMadeMe +20 / -0
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– Ep0ch -2 points 4 years ago +4 / -6

The run off is toxic. Sodium. Salt is toxic. It kills fauna and flora. Way to go and turn Wyoming into a desert.

It could potentially be much worse than carbon.

Where are its emissions occurring? How do they affect the surrounding environment. It could potentially cause a much worse environmental effect. Sodium into an otherwise wooded state. What complete fuckos. Just more mad corporate bullshit. Their ad campaign is almost convincing except study under that hood.

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– DavidColeIntrepid 5 points 4 years ago +6 / -1

You seem to be confused.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt

"Molten salts" are salts of compounds like flouride, cyanide, chlorine, etc. Not literally table salt.

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– Ep0ch 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The isotope when in fission beomes plutonium. Hence they are concerned about it being weaponized. Enrichment. I am not about to explain that in perfect geek for you either it was in the links.

The spent fuel rods nuclear waste are cooled in water then incased in concrete.

Read the damn links instead of trolling

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– DavidColeIntrepid 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The isotope when in fission beomes plutonium

How much exactly and how does that compare to LWRs?

Hence they are concerned about it being weaponized. Enrichment

The main MSR concept is to have the fuel dissolved in the coolant as fuel salt, and ultimately to reprocess that online. Thorium, uranium, and plutonium all form suitable fluoride salts that readily dissolve in the LiF-BeF2 (FLiBe) mixture, and thorium and uranium can be easily separated from one another in fluoride form. Batch reprocessing is likely in the short term, and fuel life is quoted at 4-7 years, with high burn-up. Intermediate designs and the AHTR have fuel particles in solid graphite and have less potential for thorium use.

Does it offgas plutonium if you don't use plutonium salts as a starter? Are these people full of shit when they say it's easy to seperate and reprocess?

And no, that's not "enrichment". Again, you're confused about the difference between LWRs and MSRs. MSRs do not require "enriched" anything and do not output "enriched" anything.

MSR generates less waste than conventional nuclear plants because these reactors do not use fuel rods that are used in LWRs. In addition, the reprocessing of highly radioactive fuel salts is not needed with FHR because it is efficient at burning transuranic elements.

https://www.anthropoceneinstitute.com/science/generation/msr/#:~:text=MSR%20generates%20less%20waste%20than,efficient%20at%20burning%20transuranic%20elements.

Read the damn links instead of trolling

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– Ep0ch 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Definition it actually is. Created plutonium. Enrichment. It sooner becomes the concern of it being used to weaponize. As in Enrichment. You are the epitome of a dumb troll.

I am not reading your fuck dumb links. They aren't the links I submitted to you.

So you sooner stopped arguing the nuclear waste. 20 percent less waste is still waste.

I don't care about its bullshit the nigger ad campaign it ain't even built yet

Fuck off dumb nigger.

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– Ep0ch 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

https://antinuclear.net/2021/03/22/bill-gates-backs-costly-nuclear-reactor-design-fueled-by-nuclear-weapon-usable-plutonium/

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/dangerous-decisions-about-advanced-nuclear-reactors-could-lead-new-threats-183934

https://mronline.org/2021/04/19/what-bill-gates-has-wrong-about-advanced-nuclear-reactors/

Read it

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– Ep0ch 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

https://cdn.britannica.com/700x450/80/162180-004-89001F65.jpg

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– Ep0ch -2 points 4 years ago +3 / -5

That is ridiculous. Sodium is salt. It has the same chemical properties of salt. Sodium. You are like a dumb link bot. Google's what did you Google, molten salt. Was that everything they quoted in the press? How did you understand it? Did you read the chemicals of molten salts. Chlorides and nitrates? In that Wiki.

How can these people say there is no impact on the environment? Calling it Natrium. It isn't natural it is chemical and has big run off. Hence I asked. Sure it doesn't have the same nuclear waste. It has other run off. Read that Wiki link. Can you do that. With the rest of the chemicals in molten salts, they are environmentally toxic. Again they aren't the full process of that reactor.

It potentially is worse than carbon.

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– DZP1 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

Whoa whoa. Go take some high school chemistry and try again. Table salt contains the metal sodium. Sodium is NOT salt. It is a meltable metal that can store a lot of heat [and low absorption of neutrons which makes it a good coolant here], which is why it is used to transfer heat in a sodium-based reactor in cooling tubes.to boilers to make steam to run a turbine. The tubes are a sealed closed system and they do not contact the outside world. That is because the sodium would react badly with air and moisture. Basically this is like a railroad steam engine but with nukes instead of burning coal, and the steam drives electric turbines instead of wheels.

There is no runoff, it is a sealed system. You misinterpreted the Wiki article. Ask me anything and I will help with explanation.

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– Ep0ch -2 points 4 years ago +1 / -3

It is using sodium derivatives. Sodium chloride and sodium nitrate for molten salts. Where are the emissions going, stream, like burning carbon causes what effect? Stop it.

A steam engine burning coal causes the release of carbon. You are arguing burning sodium causes nothing?

Sodium needs extreme heat before it is viable.

Sealed system that has emissions in the form of both steam and waste water. Anything with a furnace burning quote unquote metals does.

I didn't ask for your bullshit version of science either

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– DavidColeIntrepid 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Sodium is a type of salt. There are many different types of salts.

You are like a dumb link bot

Because "I'M" the one completely ignorant of how MSRs function. Ok, pal.

How did you understand it?

Nuclear energy is an interest of mine. I have a laymen understanding of MSRs, Chernobyl, weapons development, etc.

How can these people say there is no impact on the environment?

MSRs are self regulating. If the pressure gets too high it will stop, that's just because of the properties of these molten salts. Chernobyl on the other hand was made from spying on other programs so they were trying to fill in gaps. It had what was called a "positive output ratio" or some such nonsense. Basically the hotter it got, the better it ran. Which is completely illegal and imoral by any intelligent standards.

Sure, I bet if it did leak it wouldn't be great. It's by far much safer than what we're doing now, but you can't refine molten salts and attach them to an ICBM.

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– Ep0ch -1 points 4 years ago +1 / -2

What are you babbling on about?

The speculation fucko was is sodium harmful to the environment. Yes. Speculation was does the reactor called natrium, nothing natural about it using a chemical process, create run off. Again the answer is yes

Now answer how using sodium was so much better than carbon? I am struggling to understand it.

I didn't need your life story. I didn't ask for it, I don't care what you studied if you're bullshit and stupid. I speculated and since have had really dumb little bitches tell me really stupid things. The paper shits some advertising, next they're getting vaccinated for free and now their face is crooked, they can't have kids, and their brain is cloted, and their heart is enlarged, then they're in a coma but the press told them to swallow. I don't care about your Chernobyl. Speculation was the above. Not dumb analogies. Not how does it compare to nuclear, it doesn't, it doesn't have the same output.

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– Jmricht 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

NA2+. Sodium. NAtrium

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