Thanks to everyone that participated in the nomination thread, and thanks to u/Graphenium and u/clemaneuverers for the suggestion!
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Pinging you here so that an actually discussion can take place, in this thread dedicated to discussion, without the baggage of your earlier comments.
I don’t think they claim that viruses are dead cells, my understanding of their argument was that when cells in “diseased” tissue (aka tissue suffering toxicosis) die, the body, as part of its homeostatic “clean up operations”, collects this toxic refuse (poisonous substances, and rotting flesh), and bundles it up in what have heretofore been called “viruses”, to aid in flushing it from the body without spreading the waste around and causing further negative effects. This is the thesis of the video, and you will need to actually see their argument in order to have an informed discussion.
Regarding the claims about mold, I think they are just recontextualizing something that everyone acknowledges, which is that “rot” begins inside a dead (cell/animal), from the microflora naturally present which can now reproduce without the restraint normally imposed by a living beings immune system.
Hi fren, I'm not watching the video, but from your description it sounds like they are conflating necrosis/autophagy/apoptosis pathways with viruses. Viruses do exist and can induce cell death, but they do a ton of other cool stuff too.
(Used to be a virologist before I got a job that doesn't pay slave wages lol)
Huh well I think you could offer some really interesting insights and help elucidate if the subjects/specifics they advance have any practical or theoretical applications, I hope you check it out when you get a chance.
Oof. I got 10 minutes in and couldn't take it anymore. We could spend a year talking about all the reasons he is wrong.
Is there any specific point you found interesting? I'm happy to share my experience working with viruses and cells with you if you'd be into an alternate perspective.