You want this guy forcibly removed (impossible for a true shill), but you don’t think submission statements would help make the shills easier to identify? Or since I don’t want to put words in your mouth, you found the idea of submission statements too restricting to the growth of the forum? I don’t get that, because instead of depending on the community to decide you’re hoping the two or three mods this place has have omniscient shill detectors
Hmm well I don’t think he should be banned permanently, he has “contributed” to the discussion in the sense that he has inspired plenty of eloquent rebuttals to his MSM garbage.
But I agree with the point of spam. What about some middle ground where posts at -5 or worse are hidden from the new queue? conversations can still occur in them, and the queue isn’t spammed with garbage. If it gets abused by someone with bots they can be easily identified and removed (there may need to be a backend change that allows mods to see who voted on what, but I think that right should be given to the subwin creator, it’s logical and prevents all kind of vote fuckery)
u/axolotl_peyotlu/putinlovescats what do you guys think about that? And how feasible would it be? Users votes are definitely stored because I can see my list of upvoted posts, seems like it could be a relatively simple tweak by the admins? The hiding of posts from /new would probably take an auto mod type thing, dunno if anyone’s set one up for this place but surely it’s being worked on if not.
Does he seem like a paid shill or a 20 year old “activist” stuck living with his anti trump parents in New York State because the ‘rona shut down his college? I don’t think we have too many honest to god paid shills, and the ones I do think we have are way too fucking subtle for an outright ban. I think what i described applies to most of the shit disturbers here so far. u/syrian and his alt u/zyklonben along with u/serenade and his 5+ alts are border line, but even they are too stupid to be paid, far more likely to be useful idiot Hasbara college recruits “fighting the holy fight”
My argument boils down to free speech basically, which is why this site was formed. Otherwise you end up with shit shows like GA and TD and Reddit where you don’t really learn anything from the interactions taking place because their so strongly forced into a mold (imo).
You want this guy forcibly removed (impossible for a true shill), but you don’t think submission statements would help make the shills easier to identify? Or since I don’t want to put words in your mouth, you found the idea of submission statements too restricting to the growth of the forum? I don’t get that, because instead of depending on the community to decide you’re hoping the two or three mods this place has have omniscient shill detectors
Hmm well I don’t think he should be banned permanently, he has “contributed” to the discussion in the sense that he has inspired plenty of eloquent rebuttals to his MSM garbage.
But I agree with the point of spam. What about some middle ground where posts at -5 or worse are hidden from the new queue? conversations can still occur in them, and the queue isn’t spammed with garbage. If it gets abused by someone with bots they can be easily identified and removed (there may need to be a backend change that allows mods to see who voted on what, but I think that right should be given to the subwin creator, it’s logical and prevents all kind of vote fuckery)
u/axolotl_peyotl u/putinlovescats what do you guys think about that? And how feasible would it be? Users votes are definitely stored because I can see my list of upvoted posts, seems like it could be a relatively simple tweak by the admins? The hiding of posts from /new would probably take an auto mod type thing, dunno if anyone’s set one up for this place but surely it’s being worked on if not.
Check out the interaction between me and him at the bottom of this thread:
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/12hRGzmmer/dozens-of-former-republican-offi/c/
Does he seem like a paid shill or a 20 year old “activist” stuck living with his anti trump parents in New York State because the ‘rona shut down his college? I don’t think we have too many honest to god paid shills, and the ones I do think we have are way too fucking subtle for an outright ban. I think what i described applies to most of the shit disturbers here so far. u/syrian and his alt u/zyklonben along with u/serenade and his 5+ alts are border line, but even they are too stupid to be paid, far more likely to be useful idiot Hasbara college recruits “fighting the holy fight”
My argument boils down to free speech basically, which is why this site was formed. Otherwise you end up with shit shows like GA and TD and Reddit where you don’t really learn anything from the interactions taking place because their so strongly forced into a mold (imo).
I'm not sure I've ever used the word magatard. Cultist, definitely.