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DZP1 27 points ago +27 / -0 (edited)

I've done film lighting, know differences between it and TV lighting. and there is a dead giveaway in the set lighting in this. It is actually TV-lit, though usable for still photos too. That is NOT the actual Oval Office, whose lighting is different, way different. Clues are the shadows within the flag surface textures, and the reflection on the desktop. Also there is a special flatness in luminosity here typical of TV set lighting. And yes, the windows are a giveaway too. Fake set, not the real White House.

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dontkillmehillary [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Whats your thoughts on what Im 100% were green screened Presidential statements from Trump?

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DZP1 9 points ago +9 / -0

Plenty good chance some were green screened, but I don't ascribe evil to that, more like efficiency. My guess is all presidents since Obama have benefited from digital technology advances. However, in Biden's cases I think it's being used to mask Biden health issues; they are keeping him under close control.

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MediaMadeMe 1 point ago +1 / -0

My guess is all presidents since Obama have benefited from digital technology advances.

That is literally just Trump and arguably Biden.

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LUXURY_USERNAME 3 points ago +3 / -0

Can we compare to Trump vids? I mean would we be surprised if the President wasn’t actually signing laws inside a building that you could toss a nice football spiral at from the road in the middle of DC?

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Pedeville 1 point ago +1 / -0

They use lighting inside oval office as well when doing interviews and stuff like that

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DZP1 3 points ago +3 / -0 (edited)

Of course. However, the Oval Office has a ceiling and painted walls. They affect certain qualities of the lighting in ways that an open roofed set does not! One can see this if one has worked on sets. In the real office one can bounce light off the ceiling and this gives particular qualities to the smoothness of lighting. In a set with open roof, lighting has to be diffused in certain ways with gels or umbrellas, and this quality is visible if you know what to look for. That's why I noted the texture on the flag and other things.

Another thing is, when you light for green screen, you have to light flat or else hot spots show on the green screen, affecting quality of the matting / overlay. The Biden shots show they lit flat probably to assist this. (On the other hand, today's LED light boxes for video are inherently flat without big hot spots anyway.)

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Pedeville 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah I'm no lightfag or camerafag so I have no clue how to verify this stuff anyways lol

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dontkillmehillary [S] 19 points ago +19 / -0 (edited)

From NYT 1997 article which discussed Castle Rock Pictures manufacturing Oval Office sets for TV.

So then you have add the Inauguration day fuckery....

Seems this Q follower has stumbled onto something interesting.

Hijinx may be afoot!

edit: my internet is crazy, caused a bunch of weird stuff when i posted, sorry about that

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HeyJesusBringMeABeer 7 points ago +7 / -0

Wtf lol

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Armitage 6 points ago +6 / -0 (edited)

Yeah LOL, we're been played. It may be time to stop worrying and get out the popcorn.

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HeyJesusBringMeABeer 4 points ago +4 / -0 (edited)

You can find it by title on search engines...

(The archive isn't a fake)

The article mentions Hillary Clinton...

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illiac-iv 7 points ago +7 / -0

What about the video where someone with the looks and gait of Trump is casually trotting by outside, as can be seen through the window? While Biden sits at the desk in the oval office? While Trump was actually in Florida, seen by thousands of fans?

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dontkillmehillary [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

The debunk is that there is a roadway behind the office... the rebunk is that the roadway is too far for replicant Trump to appear so close.

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illiac-iv 4 points ago +4 / -0

Does the debunk make a statement whether it's actually Trump or just about the roadway? Asking for a friend.

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dontkillmehillary [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

Debunk says its a Secret Service guy but rebunk says there isnt fat SS guys.

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illiac-iv 7 points ago +7 / -0

I doubt that Trump can just stroll around alone at any time. The figure totally looks and walks like him and at the same time the figure looks so smugly out of place and in your face that I suspect it's actually a 4chan meme. Hilarious and well done.

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GaIIowBoob 2 points ago +2 / -0

Former President Clinton strolled to Epstein Island with no SS accompaniment.

I don't think it's him, seems too young/ spry/ bouncy step, but alone isn't impossible for pasr Presidents.

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illiac-iv 1 point ago +1 / -0

I noticed the agility, but did not think much of it. Nancy looked pretty spry for an 80yo, too, in that video with the federal marshalls.

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Pedeville 3 points ago +3 / -0

Does look like Trump, but the hair looks too white or bald in my opinion, but the head (the way he sticks his neck forward) and body build matches him 100%

https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/trump-oval-office-e1493391595282.jpg?quality=80&strip=all

Heres a pic of trump in the office, its a car in the window behind him, and a road that theres possible to park car on (as in biden video)

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illiac-iv 1 point ago +1 / -0

This was discussed at length in several threads on Biden being in a faux oval office. Perhaps Trump was a gimmick to make the fake more plausible. However, the office looks legit if you cut the crap.

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DefaultFreedom 7 points ago +7 / -0

There's a whole highway.

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rubberbiscuit 4 points ago +4 / -0

I just quickly duckduckgo'd "Trump Oval Office Address". There is a fucking huge tree behind the window - https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/shutterstock_10052056aREPLACE.jpg -

OK now it is hard to see in the Biden clip but I don't see a tree.

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davebe 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, in pics of Trump in the oval office there are trees and bushes right behind the windows, and with Biden there aren't. Also the leather chair is different.

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JustAGuest 3 points ago +4 / -1

This is bullshit I just looked up Trump there in 2017 and you could see the same street

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BasedBasharAlAssad 2 points ago +2 / -0

Post a link to it then?

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theoriginalwhy 1 point ago +1 / -0

Or just look at a map. There's a road behind the oval office.

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KennyLiquorbush 2 points ago +2 / -0

That makes sense. The same people that control Hollywood also control the government.

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AT1IronMan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Chairs are different... I'll have to look back at GEOTUS in the OO

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AnonymousFrog 2 points ago +2 / -0

This whole election is unbelievable. But it’s not like the public face of politics has ever been completely real. I just wish people would quit pretending that having some secret network fight the bad guys is a good idea. This is a republic and we should be in charge of our government, not some mysterious figures.

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Redamberpassion 2 points ago +2 / -0

The oval office looks out onto the south lawn which has a circular driveway. Check out the street view. It was likely just a truck or vehicle driving by or parked.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8970333,-77.0372467,2a,75y,338.92h,93.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stYVgyCX34zufQh8XWYU2bg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

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JustAGuest 1 point ago +2 / -1

JOE BROS I DONT FEEL SO GOOD RIGHT NOW

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Whatsupwithdat 1 point ago +1 / -0

Its probably very easily explainable.

How many days to sweep the oval office/WH for bugs?

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BasedBasharAlAssad 1 point ago +1 / -0

Man this is some wild shit

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hugh_janus 1 point ago +1 / -0

So where is JoePedo?