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there exists an organized effort reaching back far into history to ritualistically scapegoat and murder large amounts of people. Who is performing the ritual? If I had to put a name to it I would chose synagogue of satan but there are many names. The point is a small group of people being scapegoated and turned over for murder by an even smaller group living within them as a parasite and using them as a human (red)shield
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some mean racists back in 1600s russia were REALLY good at guessing the future. Edit: some current research places the date in the early 1900s, but my point largely stands
Thoughts? If you think something else, my mind is open but please let’s keep the discussion within polite bounds if we can.
You know the answer...
It does not matter, was the Protocols hoax or not. It does not matter who wrote them. Who cares if they correctly describe nearly everything we see, and we have no better explanation? Scientifically, if a theory correctly describe observations, it is a good and valid theory.
In the past, there was a scientific theory of "phlogiston" - the thin substance of heat flowing from the warmer object to cooler one. At the time, it allowed to correctly calculate and predict nearly all heat transfer processes known, being completely wrong.
So, if we have no better theory or model describing observed reality, it is completely scientific and valid to use this one.
u/magapede69 u/syrian u/minuet u/newuserfromreddit
any of you usually talkative fellows care to offer an opinion?
Sorry, I was banned for wrongthink and have been busy with work, I'll take a look at this all shortly.
Cool cool cool ?
Sup pussy you got an answer yet?
Fuck no lmfao. I just came back to this place to troll the few Trump supporters that remain. This place died, like I thought it would.
Oy vey
Be careful with that language! Seems like y’all have gotten really anti-Semitic since I was last here too. Lmfaooo
What’s the crime rabbi?
What a faggot, I had edited that long before your comment
Why not just delete this one, start fresh, and act like less of a faggot so you don’t get sniffed out so quick, you’ll probably be able to do more stealth influencing like that. That’s why you’re here right?
Hey verso is this your new account? I can tell by the righteous indignation on a topic literally labeled “Discussion/ChangeMyView”.
The point is plain as day but if you need it spelled out: the “justifications” for the holocaust were written decades before the event occurred. Either these raycis russian forgers were in on a big lie being hidden from the masses, or they’re REALLY good at guessing the future
Uhh...did I? Why do you keep changing accounts, I was just guessing lmfao. I guess the nose knows though right?
Anyone that thinks The Protocols of The Elders of Zion is a fake, dig through the Talmud. The Protocols has a lot of similar themes, attitudes, and strategies. Next we will have MSM moguls decrying the Talmud as a forgery.
And when you search it on google you will shown a million sources attacking it, but good luck finding the actual text. That’s usually a good litmus test (((they))) are trying hide something from you.
Hitler isn’t the biggest boogeyman in the MSM and corporate media for generations because he was a deranged lunatic. He exposed these people better than anyone ever.
Benjamin Freedman is a convert and was present at many of the meetings which birthed the "protocols". His insight has been invaluable to me putting the puzzle pieces together, so to speak. Here is his famous courageous speech.
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/freedman.htm
more info https://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=6
Sabbatean Frankists The sect of judaism that has infiiltrated judaism, Catholicism, Protestantism, Masronry, Universities, the Federal Government. They kidnap and ritually murder children. They are Satanic.
Waters Flowing Eastward by Leslie Fry:
https://files.catbox.moe/0eixvr.pdf
I found this to be an excellent book, that has an extensive part on the origin of the Protocols. It was written in the 30's I think, before the mass misnfo campaign had time to dry. Also good is Kerry Bolton's document on the topic:
https://files.catbox.moe/rb5ltt.pdf
An overview of the Protocols historical conext, comparing and contrasting the various origin stories, and ultimately narrowing it down largley to L. Fry's description in Water Flowing Eastward.
And then recently I came accross this document seemingly arguing for a Ukranian origin of the Protocols:
https://files.catbox.moe/31uo5s.pdf
By Karl Radl: The Protocols of Zion: The Facts, Myths and the Lies. I've yet to read it but I'm a little skeptical since it's the only study I've seen of it's kind. But it looks well written and is on my reading list.
Regardless of the exact scenario, they are a real document (or were translated from a real document – the actual original was returned to the archive in Paris from which it was "borrowed", after translation to Russian) and were developed over time seemingly by various groups - Jewish FreeMasons/Kabalists / Synagog of Satan / Sabbatean Frankist-type people. Fry reckons she knew who the original author was. The name escapes me. It's in her book (first link).
Ahh my mistake, I didn’t refresh myself on the various sides of the debate before posting this and for some reason remembered a far earlier attribution. But like you mention it seems the debate is still ongoing so that could explain my out of date info!
Thanks for this post, real historical scholarship is hugely important, lest we forget and repeat the cycle poorly
I spent a bit of time early last year trying to unearth the "anti-wikipedia" origin of the protocols (i.e. the true origin), and upon consultation with various knowledgeable anons, I narrowed the field of possibility down to info contained in those 3 documents I linked.
The first 2 agree with each other, and the third throws in a curve ball, but does not question the veracity of the protocols; just that the origin is ultimately Ukraine and not Paris, France.
Similar groups of people are implicated in both scenarios.
u/eisenhorn any thoughts?
Even if they are fake its like listening to the turner diary's or hunter right now.... Both written by a extreme racists, but we are about to start down turner diary's or about 3/4 through hunter..... either they are the best guessers in the world or that group is taking notes and adjusting when they see a good suggestion of how to get there faster.....
What’s wrong with racism? You say that like this is reddit. It isn’t. Diversity causes division. If the US was still an almost entirely White country it would not be as messed up as it currently it. White power. :)