I was born a Globalist just like Mormons and Jews are born into their religious worldviews. All I have is weakening faith in our institutions and in our prophets like Albert Einstein and Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Help me see a new path.
Edit: Graph made it clear my original post came off confrontational so I've changed it.
Well if you’re a “globalist” you would be the one making the claim wouldn’t you? So why not back up your claim? (Note appeals to authority and scientific work you had no hand in will be ignored)
I was born a Globalist just like Mormons and Jews are born into their religious worldviews. All I have is weakening faith in our institutions and in our prophets like Albert Einstein and Neil deGrasse Tyson. I'm asking for help to see a new worldview, not trying to start a fight. I understand how my original statement did not portray this and am going to edit it.
To be honest I think we’re probably on a sphere like every other celestial body, but I don’t dismiss the idea of other shapes out of hand, I’ve seen enough “scientific facts” born entirely out of corruption, incompetence, an unwillingness to challenge the current paradigm, etc. to know “Science^TM” these days is being used by TPTB to supplant The Church as their control mechanism.
I would say, for the most unbiased approach, start with the moon landing (I recommend the doc American Moon) then understand that almost every aspect of “space” science (climate, satellites, rocketry, experimental propulsion, weather, geoengineering, and on and on) go through NASA aka the deceivers.
linking american moon, with 42 questions with timestamps
https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ejxxre/american_moon_2017_featured_documentary/
Look at what happens when a drop of water falls from the sky. It forms a globe. It’s a natural form.
I was born and raised a "mormon" (ancestry goes back to the early mormons in Utah and their polygamy) with their belief system. It is really hard to crack that open and see it for what it is. I was 34 years old before I found out I was conned. Became a christian, God opened my eyes. Now I trust no religion, but do my best to trust in the Bible.
Which bible? Which translation? If you want the closest to “the word of god” surely you’d have to use the oldest version that underwent the least amount of translations and those scriptures paint a very different version than the one provided to us in english by the cannibalistic, pedophilic Roman Catholic Church (and therefore its descendants).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_Hammadi_library
Use your own ability to discern truth, don’t warp yourself and your beliefs around some single object fixed in time and place like “the bible”
Edit: Just to add, I think the Mormon idea of Kobol is cool as fuck same with their link to Rastafarianism (Praise Ja), does that mean I have to believe in magic underwear?
Are Mormons masonic transhumanists to you? I was also born into it, but left pretty young though. The way they talk sometimes just rubs me the wrong way... "Children of light will be translated into heaven and live an eternal life"... What needs to be translated? My consciuosness translated into a programming language to be uploaded?
They have recently made it very clear to their members that very few are actually enlightened enough to receive these gifts. Also they mention The Church of the Firstborn in their text but not many members actually know what that is. I need to look into it.
Why do you worship Einstein
I don't think it's flat to us. As a Christian I struggled with this a bit because the Bible clearly described the earth as a circle, thus implying that it is flat. But God showed me that those descriptions in the Bible are from a heavenly perspective.
As we know, God is above time, therefore He exists in at least the fifth dimension (though He's higher, my guess is that there's 12 dimensions, but I have no way to be sure). But basically, because He is above time, He looks down to earth over all of time. As we all know "time is a flat circle", so to God the earth, and all its time, is a flat circle.
But we operate in the 3rd dimension, so we can't experience all of time. So to us time is a sphere, we can only be at one location on its surface at any time. And this is exactly the same with earth. Therefore, it's a globe.
Man, the Bible clearly says the earth is flat and immovable. There are hundreds of verses to support this. None to support the globe. How many times in the Bible does it say ends of the earth!? Over a hundred times. Does a ball have ends? I don't think so. NASA is the dark funding the CIA uses for all its evil workings. Total hoax. I woke up 4 years ago and never will ever go back to globe belief.
Oh for fuck sakes, now you're using a book written thousands of years ago as proof? Jesus H Fucking Imbeciles. The stupidity of these types of posts are the essence of being a dumb fuck.
Hello my flat headed friend, how do you reconcile all the trades in the world that rely on the earth being a globe including shipping and most travel, aerospace, weather, satellite tech, navigation, etc...
Are everyone in these fields in on the gag, or all won't, or so you cry fake and release the dogs of war?
Flat Earth is a planted conspiracy posted in conspiracy forums by glowies in order to make those forums look ridiculous.
The moon landing was a planted conspiracy posted on public media by glowies in order to make those people believe anything they see on TV and ignore the war crimes in Vietnam.
The best way to remove God from peoples lives is to tell them they are a little worthless speck on a spinning ball that is flying through infinite emptiness all created by a random big bang...
With the moon landing being fake, as well as many other conspiracy theories, there are two key components that make it plausible: the number of people in on the secret, and the stakes. The more people know about a secret, the less likely it is to be kept a secret. At the same time, what is the point of keeping a secret if there are no consequences for it getting out?
Moon Landing -the secret would need to be kept by a few people: Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, the set builders, and the rocket crew. Not even the broadcasting company needs to be in on it. All in all, maybe 1000 people. This could be feasibly managed if the organizers were extremely good.
-the stakes for it being discovered to be fake relatively high. It would have eroded trust in the government and nasa, as well as embolded the ussr. It also would beg the question: where is the nasa money being laundered to?
Flat Earth -There are literally hundreds of millions of people for which the earth being round is something they have to deal with professionally on a daily basis. Pilots fly routes that look curved on a flat map because those routes are shorter when traveling across a sphere. Long range shooters have to adjust for the coriolis effect. Heck, I personally work remotely with people on the other side of the world, where my morning is their evening (not possible if the sun didn't revolve around a spherical earth.) In order for the secret to be kept, those hundreds of millions of people would need to be in on it, including myself. There is no way such a secret could be feasibly kept with the communications tech we have access to today.
-What are the stakes if the earth were discovered to be flat? Maybe some eroded trust in the media, and maybe a small handful of devout religious people get demoralized for a second. Knowing religious people, flat earth wouldn't be enough for them to break religion. There's plenty of much more feasible methods of removing god from people's lives.
Basically, the cost to keep the secret is not worth the stakes at play.
Two questions to ask;
Why are bubbles round and not flat?
What compels flat earthers, who have zero formal education, think they are smarter than NASA space engineers?
Flat earthers and moon deniers are fucking retarded morons.
Neither are conspiracies I subscribe to, but one can be forgiven for being convinced the moon landing was fake.
Flat earth is a batshit insane and pointless conspiracy that anyone who has ever traveled should be able to instantly dismiss. I refuse to believe it has any real following.
I'd love to be convinced it was real, in fact i started doubting trying to prove it was real... i thought it would be very easy but in the end, i have not found a way to do this independently. I'd rather it was real.
Ok bye
You're not 'born' anything. You are programmed by the people who brainwash you. This is why you have to think for yourself. Do your own research and trust your common sense.
Anyone who tells you the earth is flat is a fucking moron who does not know the first thing about physics. Imagine being so stupid that you think the sun is tiny and only casts light on one part of a wheel at a time. Simple logic would tell you, even if you are far, far away from the sun, you would still see it if it was above a flat plane. How could it disappear from sight? Does it magically become invisible?