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p8riot 0 points ago +1 / -1

Why did you quote "push" when I did not use that term? And ignore all three points I made?

Your reply is a strawman argument wrapped in gatekeeping ad hominem. For a scientist you really ought to know better.

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p8riot 0 points ago +1 / -1

You didn't answer my question about dependent variables so I assume you're conceding that point.

And you misunderstood my other question, so I'll rephrase. Would the TECHNIQUE sustain past the point at which the device is no longer insulated with atm? i.e. it can only work once. Boosters on the Lander fired repeatedly so I ask again, do you think this method is sustainable?

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p8riot 0 points ago +1 / -1

Appealing to authority eh? Science is about peer review, reproduceable results, isolating control and variables. If the best you can do is a couple of DIY guys on youtube, I think that says something.

Tell me, what was each experiment's dependent variable? Was there more than one? Should there be?

I watched the video, and they couldn't get it to work until the guy "sealed" the device to maintain atmospheric pressure.. so how much of that little bit of thrust was due to that? Could it sustain the thrust?

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p8riot 0 points ago +1 / -1

The vastness of space is by and large nothingness. Hence atomless. Just like an atom itself is by and large nothingness. If you can understand that about an atom, you can understand that about space.

"Air" is not the same as electrons, particles, etc. There are still plenty of atoms bouncing around in that chamber. It is A vacuum, but not THE vacuum that is said to be outside of our atmosphere.

Furthermore and most importantly, we don't know how much of the perceived thrust is from the fired atoms bouncing off the cylinder itself.

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p8riot -2 points ago +1 / -3

Are you serious with this argument? Holy shit. This is not even remotely comparable.

  1. Pumping air out is not the same as an ATOM-LESS INFINITE VACUUM. There are still particles inside that tube.

  2. A tiny cylinder completely encapsulating the object is different from, again an INFINITE VACUUM

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p8riot -1 points ago +1 / -2

I don't want to deport you but that way of speaking is now allowed here.

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p8riot -1 points ago +2 / -3

Inertial thrust is science fiction / prototype science- certainly not around in the 1960s. Are you sure I'm the one out of my depth?

And you're begging the question by saying Newton's lawS apply in space.

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p8riot -2 points ago +1 / -3

Bounce off of what?

Which of Newton's laws are you referring to? Because his first "law" as we refer to it requires an EXTERNAL force in order to change momentum.

And the third law requires a force EQUAL IN MAGNITUDE in the opposite direction.

Where, pray tell, do you expect to find forces to satisfy these laws in a vacuum?

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p8riot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wow so insightful. Can't wait to read the rest of your thesis.

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p8riot -2 points ago +1 / -3

Yes, underwater rockets exist of course and the type of propellant isn't necessarily relevant to the argument.

It's that in a vacuum, devoid of any matter or molecules, that roman candle has nothing to push against.

It's like falling out of an airplane and trying to swim through the air to get to a lake (sort of a bad example because here we do have air resistance and it would work, but just to illustrate the idea.)

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p8riot 0 points ago +1 / -1

Relevant username?

It wouldn't push the object because that matter has nothing to bounce off of in a vacuum. There is no "equal and opposite" force

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p8riot 0 points ago +2 / -2

Can we see an example of this anywhere else in nature? Propelling through a vacuum?

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p8riot -1 points ago +2 / -3

There is no air to push against in a vacuum.

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p8riot 2 points ago +3 / -1

Do I believe the pretext for war? Of course not. It's almost always some made-up drama that the banks contrive to consolidate power.

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p8riot 3 points ago +4 / -1

The Hitler / Stalin false dichotomy is as bad as people arguing over whether Bush was better than Obama.

Just because one guy was worse in your opinion, doesn't make the other guy a saint.

They're each responsible for millions of deaths.

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p8riot -1 points ago +2 / -3

Now try explaining how a fuel propelled rocket navigates through a vacuum

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p8riot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Open borders means infinite supply of kids. And apparently darker skinned children produce more adrenochrome or something.

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p8riot 1 point ago +1 / -0

KEK waaaay ahead of ya

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p8riot 1 point ago +1 / -0

And where do you think your name and number will end up?

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p8riot 4 points ago +5 / -1

No, never happened under any administration. It's happened every night under Xiden tho

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p8riot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good point. But you could hear a bunch of cameras going off.. They made it seem like a bunch of media was there. More trickery.

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p8riot 2 points ago +2 / -0

She's the husband. Have you seen how she stands? Feet shoulder width apart.

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p8riot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Glad we can agree.

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