Lol and we're back making claims about knowing the unknowable
No, we are making claims about knowing the knowable! We know that aliens come from fiction, and that is their only origin. You don't know that because you haven't done the research yet.
It's much like how we know that bart simpson doesn't exist. It's because he's a fictional character.
Retarded
I would say that believing in fiction (against reality) is childish, not retarded. Though when you grow up, and need to put away childish things - it does begin to be indistinguishable from retarded :(
Do you think you're the first flerfer I've encountered and engaged with online?
That was my whole point! There are no "flerfers" in reality. That is a psyop to prevent you from ever earnestly evaluating the subject. You know it is stupid, because it has been advertised to you that way (through large expense!).
Correct
You would benefit from discussing it, and learning other perspectives. I am not like the psyop or its parrots. You merely believe I am without any evaluation.
You created a flat earth community. Case closed.
The community I created is for research! It is not a flat earth community (flat earth is a heavily funded/advertised psyop), it is a flat earth research community! We study the psyop and many other topics, and you would benefit from actually evaluating it - rather than continuing to blindly believe things without studying them!
You talk like a therapist. "We're making progress".
I loathe therapists. I just wanted you to recognize that we went from "That's stupid/impossible" to "maybe it's true, but it isn't important" in very short order. It is only a stones throw now from "I always knew that".
I'm good.
Not if you believe fiction is real. You are very much "not good" in that regard :(
I am only trying to help, for the benefit of all. I'm around if you should ever want to explore the topic further! I also encourage you to check out, and engage with, the community I created here.
The drinking water is constantly being poisoned.
This latest advertised (funded) hoax also distracts from that, as well as encourages us to repeat stupid things. It is a good way to see the controlled opposition sources, however.
A very brief amount of follow up research is required to determine that the primary difference between venom and poison/toxin is that venom can be eaten safely. In that way this "conspiracy dye" also exposes (along with controlled opposition) those of us that are not competent as independent researchers.
It's a "flat earth" (which again, was another cliche idiom for ignorance)
There has been a heavily advertised (i.e. heavily funded) psyop/advertising campaign to ensure that everyone knows that. So much so that now, as you say, "flat earth" can be used by association to well poison. As long as we believe it to be rationally offensive and "primitive", we have no reason to ever earnestly evaluate or discuss the subject - and that is the purpose of the psyop, to ensure that never changes.
I highly recommend anyone interested in becoming a better independent researcher/student and/or interested in learning why flat earth research is so important and suppressed to join us on the community I created to explore the subject! Earnest flat earth research is nothing like the psyop!
We're making progress.
You're already to stage 2. (That it may be true, but is unimportant/irrelevant)
Care to continue to stage 3 (I always knew that was true)?
Wellllllllllllll that's not entirely true
It is entirely true. But the accusation that you are a shill is much like the old "when did you stop beating your wife?" rhetorical question. I was never a shill, and I never beat my wife - but the accusation is automatically the guilty verdict and denial simply makes you more guilty. Lol.
I don't expect you, nor want you, to simply trust me. I only ask that you give me a fair chance to prove it (through repeated earnest interaction).
Best case scenario, you're (harmlessly) shilling your community that you created in order to drum up some engagement.
Is inviting to discuss "shilling"? Don't I have to be getting paid or being manipulated (as a useful idiot) by someone who is in order to be a shill? As I said, what I do - I do for love brother or sister. I may be crazy, and I may be wrong - but I am earnest and no shill.
you're shilling ideas that have the potential to literally dumb down the population that is active in your community.
Thoughts and rational discourse can't dumb down populations (even when those discussions and thoughts are profoundly stupid). Earnest studentship can only increase their intellectual capacity. The subject is irrelevant, and the exercise always of benefit. The smartest people who have ever lived have believed and thought all manner of incredibly stupid things. So it is today for the same reasons as back then.
As for the "kookifying" I think you are describing - to drive away people with a conditioned bias against certain "verboten" subjects and thoughts -, that risk is real. However, the "flat earth" psyop is specifically designed for that conditioning. The reason that you know that "flat earth" is too stupid to explore earnestly is because it has been heavily advertised (i.e. heavily funded) to you that way. Earnest flat earth research is nothing like what you have experience with through the psyop.
It isn't a question of "if" you're a shill or not.
It's how deep does your shilling go.
Yes, as a result of your consumption of the psyop you believe and feel this way without ever discussing or exploring what my community is really about and for! That is the purpose of the psyop you have fallen for. As long as you never evaluate or discuss with me, you will continue to believe I am a shill with no evidence to support it. I encourage you to give it a shot. What do you have to lose but a little time?
ill remember that the next time my niece tells me shes a fairy princess that rules over the fairyfolk.
You may want to look up the definition of ad hominem...
do you even have your GED?
Again, i entreat you to look up the definition of ad hominem. The intellectually feeble attack the thinker, because they aren't competent to attack the thought. Try attacking the thought, instead of the thinker - if you are at all capable of it!
when one party has the same perspective as some one from the 1600s
I don't know what you're talking about, or why you believe you automatically understand my perspective without asking a single question about it. Are you a psychic? By the by, no educated in the 1600's thought the world was flat, and neither do I! Next time, try asking questions - instead of jumping to flawed conclusion!
we can't even agree on basic observable and verifiable facts
We don't need to! Agreement/consensus is for fools. We must be able to discuss and evaluate others perspectives even, and especially, when we don't agree! Otherwise it is an echo chamber of parrots repeating to one another and nodding in vapid unison. You can never learn anything new that way, ever! Do you feel me?
I agree that there are demonstrable observable and verifiable things. If you discussed my perspective instead of assumed, you would recognize that it is not our shared observations that differ - merely our interpretation of them!
you are unhinged from reality
Perhaps. Or perhaps it is you who is, or perhaps both of us! How can we best determine which is the case? Exploring questions like this is the purpose of the community I created! I invite you to explore and discuss/share your own views, as well as evaluate the views of others who have differing ones! It is a very rewarding experience.
to treat you as an intellectual equal would be like climbing in to the pig pen to debate the swine about the best industrial engineering processes.
I don't seek debate, as it is beneath me and for fools. I seek rational discourse and the collaborative pursuit of truth! Join me! I may not be your intellectual equal, however I assure you that you will learn valuable things if you discuss with me in earnest!
You're a pleasant shill
It's important! I am not a shill, however. I may be crazy, and I may be wrong, but I am earnest. What i do, i do for love; brother or sister.
The other shills around here can take a lesson from you in that regard.
Shills (especially the paid ones, and not the useful idiots) don't typically have that latitude :( Encouraging negativity and infighting is one of their core job responsibilities. Divide, and conquer.
Lol Alistair Crowley drew a grey long before the 90s.
Wrong, but commonly believed!
Where the fuck did I "worship" aliens?
People who don't recognize that aliens are entirely fictional, and that fiction is their clear and obvious origin, are religious/believers. They typically call themselves "believers". You are a believer, are you not?
Hyperbolic as fuck
I wish. Sadly the alien worshippers are very real, very common, and heavily encouraged by modern media (fiction) inundation.
Is where you should stay.
Lol. Your invite stands if you ever care to learn something new!
Aliens are completely fictional.
Correct. The gray we know and love was first created around the early 90's. I have extensive knowledge of the subject.
Source: my butthole
Source : extensive research into the subject.
Do you just love worshipping aliens too much to discuss the topic rationally? Is that why you rush to insult? Because I insulted your religion?
Take your faggot ass
Ad hominem is for fools fren. Viciously attack the thought, never the thinker! Do better, if you are at all capable of doing so!
flat earth containment zone.
The community I created is for earnest students. We study the rationally offensive "flat earth" psyop (that you've fallen for :() amongst many other things.
You should join us and expose your views to rational criticism in the hopes of refinement, as we do! However, if you are happier believing in fear porn propaganda with no scientific support - that is your decision.
LOL the guy quotes peer reviewed physics papers religiously in his videos
I'm unimpressed :(
But yep you're the scientist
I did not claim to be a scientist, but my statements were correct regardless of what I am or am not. Now if you have some scientific support for your fear porn propaganda you'd like to evaluate further - lay it on me!
i am sorry you are so stupid
Ad hominem is the last resort of the intellectually feeble. Out of incompetence, the weak minded attack the thinker because they can't attack the thought.
If you want to be among the "smart", you should address the thoughts instead!
I wish you the best as well!
The magnetic field is not waning, the poles are not reversing, the world is not spinning (faster or otherwise) and the sky is not falling, chicken little.
Fear porn propaganda with no scientific support is best ignored!
Aliens are completely fictional.
However, I do know of one (and ONLY one) lifeform that builds flying machines and likes to rape...
There are no pole reversals, that is all stupid fear porn propaganda taught under the guise of science.
The sky is not falling, chicken little.
Ufo's are actually real! It's aliens that are fake and gay.
Ama!
Correct.
F*ing pole worshippers, pole lickers, pole smokers - you know the type ;)
Even if you survive pole-shift,
There is no such thing as "the pole shift". That is unscientific fear porn propaganda with no support whatsoever.
you won't be able to live on the surface.
The sky is not falling chicken little. Why do you think there won't be an ozone layer anymore? Do you know how the ozone layer is made? It doesn't sound like you do...
that has put giant holes in the ozone layer that are expanding at an accelerated rate.
The ozone holes were caused by high altitude jet traffic. We were lied to. They have largely healed. Cfc's were not involved.
why don't they create and inject more ozone up there
I used to think such things too. The reason is because they don't have to (and it would be very expensive and difficult). Ozone is made in an active process each and every day. At night the ozone layer falls and breaks down.
Ozone is created naturally in the upper atmosphere over time as regular oxygen (O2), is bombarded by high energy particles from the sun, merging three O2 molecules into two ozone (O3) molecules.
Exactly, and the sunlight is what got the O2 and O1 up there in the first place. It isn't caused by particles though, it is through light/radiation.
Trying to create a dust cloud in space at the LaGrange point to block some sunlight
There is no such thing as the legrange point or the ionosphere. Those are fiction. Join me on the community I created to learn more. Click my username, and on the right hand sidebar under "Moderator for..." is the link. Let me know if you don't see it, and I'll pm it to you.
Put the fear porn down, fren. The sky is not falling.
They killed him for saying stuff like this. I just saw a good documentary on the subject worth exploring/validating - Silence Patton: First Victim of the Cold War.
He was no nonsense, and couldn't wait to get back home and tell the people about the egregious f*ck ups of his "superiors".
He knew it would ruin ikes chances at the presidency, and so did ike. So he was snuffed out, and ike held a conference to tell all the top brass to "stand together" and actively hide their many mistakes or claims/aspersions to that affect.
Oh really? I thought we were talking about science and hutchinson, and then about your baseless accusations of being a fed (always accuse the opposition of what you yourself are guilty of?)
And pedophiles too. "I'm not a PEDO, I'm a child sex researcher. There's a big difference"
And who brought up the non sequitur of pedophiles with no prompting... I forget, was that me?
The flat earth guy is lecturing people about science.
Flat earth researcher, and yes most people (especially you) need a LOT of help with science. The major problem is that you have been miseducated about what it is, and the scientific vernaculars that we are taught are both colloquial and incorrect. Until you learn what science is, you can't even hope to discuss it or evaluate it, let alone practice it :( I'm here to help though!
Surely, not a government misinformation agent.
Have you ever heard a glowie speak/write like me? They don't have enough money to afford my services. In fact, there isn't enough money on earth to trade me for my time, which is my life. What I do, I do for love brother or sister. And I encourage others to do the same!
Excellent stuff. Thanks for sharing!
Also, if you have not already - please join us on the community I created to discuss and evaluate things like this!