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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

You sound like

Still can't read, and so have to resort to childish insult? You know, bots can't read or respond to content either :(

not worth having an intellectual discussion

Then why are you acting so afraid? You'll endlessly spit vapid insult, but can't read or respond to the things i've said. Don't be such a coward.

you have contrarian skepticism

All skepticism is "contrarian", by nature. You are instead arguing for conformity while vapidly and reflexively/compulsively ridiculing those who are skeptical. This is the commonplace behavior of the religious zealot, and all those without the ability to respond to content intelligently instead. If you don't master your emotions, you will always be their slave.

Eat a tide pod.

You should know, as tallestshil does, that this sort of ad hominem is both unwelcome here and a violation of the rules. If you like commenting in conspiracies, i would avoid having a mod explain that to you.

Remember, spewing vapid insult is only a demonstration that you are a simpleton and childishly lack emotional discipline. If you are able, attack my thoughts instead; it's what all the intelligent and capable do.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

You don't have thoughts

Then you need to learn to read, and reread my thoughts above.

If you are capable of responding to those thoughts, you should. Swinging wildly with childish insult is pitiful, and demonstrates your weakness :(

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jack445566778899 3 points ago +4 / -1

looks extremely fake.

there is much more compelling fake iss footage available than this which hasn't been so obviously tampered with.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

This is a very old episode of "in search of".

Out of curiosity, what is the other documentary you mentioned below? And do you know of any others about coral castle that are worth watching?

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

Those people talking at 4:40 aren't the cosmonot though...

Those are just two tv people talking about it who have no direct knowledge.

That is neo1's point.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

you retarded nigger faggot, kill yourself. You're a fed until proven autistic.

Now that sounds exactly like something tallestshil would say...

When you ignore the content/thoughts and instead attack the thinker, you demonstrate your intellectual weakness and that you lack the discipline to control your emotions (and instead let them control you).

Try harder, if you can. Attack my thoughts! Attacking me instead only proves you weren't capable.

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +2 / -1

I recommend the documentary/catholic propaganda "the principle" on this subject.

It contains some of the worlds foremost astronomers and astrophysicists explaining it in some detail, and is well worth a watch.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

You claim to have evidence but refuse to show it

You seem very confused. When did you ask for evidence and when did i refuse it (please quote/provide links to my statements)?

Are you confusing me with someone else?

You cannot even remotely explain your cosmological model

What is "my cosmological model"? We all know what happens when you assume...

In any case - explanation is arbitrary/trivial. What matters is if your explanation is correct! Merely having an explanation is what most all mythology is for.

You make only extremely vague statements

Incorrect. I suggest you re-read my recent comments to you. There are several (at least three) explicit and concrete statements which you ignored/misunderstood.

If you re-read and still don't see them - ask questions and i am happy to help (when i can)! The more specific the question, the more likely you will receive a specific answer you are seeking.

Same old, same old.

You ain't never had a friend like me ;

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

You refuse to make any concrete statement.

I made several concrete statements, did you not read/understand them?

When you don't understand, try asking questions!

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

Then how does it look like?

No one has seen the entirety of the world with their eyes. It may not be possible (such as in your worldview), doubly so if it isn't finite.

It appears to us (locally, obviously) as a largely flat disc stretching out in all directions as far as the eyes can see (with topology, of course) - but in the words of obi wan, "Your eyes can deceive you; don't trust them".

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

If you learn to read, you already have 3 answers for why i won't.

My apologies, i wrote the above because it appeared you had just responded to my comment above with "Why can't you post it here" again. This website currently has a bug where comments are being duplicated and coming in twice - apparently sometimes with a considerable delay between them.

If you are earnestly interested in any and/or all of the answers to that copypasta gish gallop - why are you so afraid of not click one link to get them?

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

Would you care to discuss/share your method(s) over on c/flatearthresearch?

I, and others, are very interested in such things.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

As number 9 in a list of definitions for the word, it somehow doesn't seem as bad. I still don't like the verbiage, because it is plainly incorrect that a model must depict something "that cannot be directly observed" - in all contexts of the word.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

It's not a belief the earth isn't flat it is just common knowledge

Belief is a placeholder for knowledge. If you do not know, acutely, and know how you know (i.e. have validated that knowledge rigorously) then you merely believe. "I "know" because teacher told me so."

The vast majority (>99%) of humanity do not know what the shape of the world is, or how to determine/validate that knowledge. They merely believe and repeat as they are required to (through conditioning by rote under the guise of education, from childhood).

just because the knowledge is common doesn't mean everyone gets it

Just because knowledge is common doesn't make it in any way correct/accurate. This is as true today as it is historically. Common knowledge is largely junk, and truth is not a democracy (thank god).

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

So you believe that the flat earth has no edge?

I try not to believe at all, and to either know or recognize that i do not know. Belief is the enemy of knowledge, and to objective study of any kind.

If the earth is flat, it may not have an edge - or perhaps it does and cannot be reached. Many speculative possibilities exist.

Describe in your own words how the earth is shaped and what surrounds it?

Like everyone else, i lack the verifiable data to make such an assessment for the entirety of the world with certainty. Of course i can make more local/limited assessments, however.

It is not spherical the way we are taught, and required to believe - nor is it whizzing through "space" at unfathomable speeds. The spherical world we are taught would require fantastic amounts of, essentially limitless, energy in order to constantly fight against the demonstrable laws of nature.

Some say it is surrounded by water, above and below. "Space" writ large has its origins, unquestionably, in fiction and is also a physical impossibility due to those same demonstrable laws. Nequaquam vacuum.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

it does it itself rapidly when someone honestly looks into it.

Many flat earth researchers begin with the same thought. Proving the earth spherical should be easy right?

Diligent and honest/earnest research leads to the conclusion that "what shape is the earth and how can I prove it?" is a much more difficult question to answer than it first appears.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

3 reasons (that i won't post it here, again)

  1. I've already done that, and i'm not going to waste more time on it.
  2. Tallestshil is a troll and his list of "questions" is merely a disearnest rhetorical trick akin to a gish gallop.
  3. The mods here would prefer this be a place for discussion of conspiracies. The shape of the world, and discussions thereof, is not a conspiracy. I created c/flatearthresearch specifically for discussions on this subject.
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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

I literally quoted the definition from a dictionary.

That is interesting - was it a reputable dictionary? Which one? It was a terrible definition in any case.

But if you want to use the more specific term "scientific model" then I am even more correct

Where was the part of that (or your other one, for that matter) definition which mentioned using it for sailing?

Don't sweat it - we're all incorrect frequently. You get used to it - but refusing to acknowledge it causes great harm.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

You’re pretty confident that water curves around a ball huh?

You must have me confused for someone else.

And you’re up in here calling people retards.

Never. I work very hard not to engage in ad hominem because it prevents/inhibits communication.

I'm called a retard (and worse) quite frequently though.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

Why hasn't a Flat Earther traveled to the edge of the world and made pictures?

The same reasons you haven't.

Why hasn't a Flat Earther landed on the moon?

Ditto.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

Model: a description or analogy used to help visualize something that cannot be directly observed.

That may be your personal definition, but is not the definition of that word in any context. Specifically, when discussing this topic - model means scientific model.

In any case, no models are used for sailing/traveling of any kind; your personal definition included.

Consult a dictionary

Practice what you preach! A flag is not a model either. Even if it were, you said it was "my model" which is also wrong.

So that's a horizontal drop of about 4 inches from the horizon that they have to account for.

Talk to an actual sniper. You are repeating nonsense. No sniper accounts, or needs to account, for any such thing. Even if such curvature existed, they don't need to adjust for it because they are never shooting blindly at targets hidden behind the horizon - that would be silly. Beyond that, other factors would be orders of magnitude more influential - like wind...

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

No, it’s a violation of policies for you to refuse to engage in discussion

No, it isn't - but as you already know from our lengthy "discussions" in the past, you miserable liar, i don't refuse any earnest discussion on one of my favorite subjects. Why on earth would I?

You cannot discuss the claim

What claim? I've discussed most everything on your list WITH YOU. You ignored the answers and still paste your copypasta and lie about it. You are not capable of discussion, either through willful disearnesty or literal programming (i.e. you are a bot).

Prove me wrong by answering the questions

I already have, check your post history.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

No sailor uses a flat earth model to navigate.

No sailor uses ANY model to navigate. Models are not used for navigation.

Your model of the earth is literally the UN flag.

That isn't a model - that's a flag. You seem confused.

Snipers have to take earth curvature into account when they shoot.

Lol. Find a sniper and ask them this question. How far do you think snipers shoot anyway?!

Yeah it's a psyop. That's why there are so many videos from anon content creators

I describe them as agents and products of the flat earth psyop. Some are agents, some are products. Content creators have their own obvious motives - which ALSO have nothing to do with the shape of the world. There are many copycats.

The pysop is hitting you right in the face.

I agree - it is heavily advertised (i.e. heavily funded).

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jack445566778899 -1 points ago +1 / -2

If you (or anyone) are at all earnestly interested in the answers to any and all questions regarding this subject, please join us on c/flatearthresearch.

Your questions are very common, and most all have trivial answers.

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jack445566778899 -1 points ago +1 / -2

I've already done that.

Tallestshil is a bot who just regurgitates copypasta.

If you (or anyone) are at all earnestly interested in the answers to any and all questions regarding this subject, please join us on c/flatearthresearch.

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