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clemaneuverers 4 points ago +4 / -0

FE took off in a big and inorganic way a few years ago especially on Youtube. It was a dead debate for a long time. It's resurgence glows. And yes, it is obscene if you stretch the definition a tiny bit:

Of or relating to materials that can be regulated or criminalized because their depiction of nudity, sex, or excretion is patently offensive and without artistic or scientific value.

FE is mental diarrhea that shits on rationality. It degrades anyone who engages with it, or anyone who tries to reason or argue with it's proponents. You should be thinking of it as offensive as pornography because it functions the same way.

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clemaneuverers 6 points ago +6 / -0

FE are very vocal about NASA fakery because it's their most successful grooming technique. There exists perfectly rational, plausible and likely, non-FE explanations for every NASA fake there is. But it's not all the same 1 FE reason. In reality if there is one over-arching true reason for all their fakes it's to keep the massive amounts of funding pouring in. NASA has been like that from the start, when they were given a ridiculous amount of money to perform a mission they already knew was impossible - well, impossible in the way they had been planning.

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clemaneuverers 5 points ago +5 / -0

I suppose you are referring to the largest Moon Hoax group on Facebook that bans flat earthers? Yes, they gave me some inspiration for this. Those guys are really good researchers who have made some great and original discoveries in the moon-landing-hoax topic, and it's amazing they have held onto that group on Zuckbook for so long. They don't waste any time dealing with FE people in their group and it's a wise move. Genuine NASA fanboys go there to debate and sometimes get swayed by rational argument. That would never happen with FE drool cluttering up the comments.

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clemaneuverers 6 points ago +6 / -0

then you are simply an unthinking contrarian. Perhaps you also support pedophilia? Snuff? Con artists who con the elderly out of their savings? These are some other examples of groups affected by censorship.

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clemaneuverers 2 points ago +2 / -0

Anyone who is thinking of taking his word for this, seek out his "proof" and my response. Easiest way is to search his post history, something about the 24 hour time lapses being fake.

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clemaneuverers 8 points ago +8 / -0

no I am butt hurt that I wasted time communicating with you. I want to save the precious few genuine users we have here (and myself) from the temptation to engage with that genuinely demoralizing and pointless experience. There is an entire community they can go to engage with such destructive behavior.

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clemaneuverers 5 points ago +5 / -0

Shill is indeed maybe not the right word. All FE people are either FE groomers or those who have been groomed. I'm sorry if you are the latter, but I have no sympathy if you are the former. You activities here seem to me like FE grooming.

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clemaneuverers 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thank you for a perfect example of your regular, ridiculous, completely false and baseless assertions.

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clemaneuverers 4 points ago +4 / -0

I've literally asked people to vote on the topic. I will abide by the results of this vote. Perhaps I should have put that in OP.

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clemaneuverers 5 points ago +5 / -0

wow, much insightful. Let's get the pedos in next to talk about the conspiracy to suppress their sexuality. Or the CRT people to post about the conspiracy to suppress their racism. So many interesting conspiracies out there. so entertaining. everything is a conspiracy when you are open minded enough. and of course, they all lead back to flat Earth, the ultimate conspiracy.

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clemaneuverers 4 points ago +4 / -0

idealistic. This place could be flooded by pedophiles talking about the conspiracy to suppress their sexuality. Would you defend their free speech? Maybe you would say FE is hurting no one. But I disagree. It's a rotting of the mind, giving people a false sense of superiority for being open minded enough to discover the "ultimate conspiracy behind everything". yet it's something that is completely untrue and without any merit whatsoever except perhaps as an amusing distraction. but some people also consider pornography an amusing distraction. It's not appropriate content for here.

Every video of FE proofs contains many lies, false assumptions, false assertions - you could spend weeks carefully dismantling and refuting the whole thing but by the time you did they've made another one. They have no standards. It's mental diarrhea. Worse, for some it's done with malicious intent. Some are just people who have been groomed, but there are those who set out to groom.

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clemaneuverers 3 points ago +3 / -0

it's hard to say, someone up thread brought up the point the recent flair up could be balloon related. But I'm sorry to say, every post by a FE poster is an FE post even if they have posted some other topic. If you engage with them in the comments, it will very quickly lead back to the "ultimate conspiracy, FE". Plus, they post submissions on other topics from expressly FE content creators, and whatever the topic of the video, FE will brought up at some point, because it all leads back to FE, don't you know.

Then there is a user who has a repeatedly posted the Moon Hoax doc made by the Aulis.com people who are not FE, but the beginning of their doc has been cut, an FE message edited in, and a FE content creators logo emblazoned on. They literally clumsily cut the first 5 minutes of the doc to do that, and then it just starts almost mid sentence. I informed said poster of the issue, provided the Aulis peoples' link, he acknowledged it - and then a day or two later posted the same doctored documentary again.

FE posters don't deserve your patience or defense of their "free speech" - they are insidious malcontents here to infect your mind - similar to pornographers, child groomers or proponents of CRT. I'd like to help them see their way out of FE and I've tried, but they are ignorant assholes who can't be helped through internet discussion. They only take away from this place.

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clemaneuverers 4 points ago +4 / -0

Good point about the balloon, perhaps it's a flair up.

2nd point - rational engagement with a FE poster, asking them to tone down anything, will make them post more. Try engaging with them yourself, present a rational response to some assertion they make. My experience is they are completely ignorant assholes who don't deserve any molly-coddling. And their seeming interest in any other topics is a façade to promote FE. Rational engagement is a complete fail with these people, or at least beyond my capabilities.

3rd - yes perhaps right. I don't have the ability to appoint a mod though.

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clemaneuverers 6 points ago +6 / -0

The believers are not correct in any way. There is nothing to it but ignorance and malicious intent. But if you want to investigate it and share your "research" (lmao), there is a dedicated community for that. There are many in fact.

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clemaneuverers 2 points ago +2 / -0

yes, top level comment with no yay or nay are being removed. if they edit it to insert the word like I ask I'm reapproving.

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clemaneuverers 4 points ago +4 / -0

depends on the mod. There are some who will ban you immediately for casting any shade on any Jewish person.

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clemaneuverers 6 points ago +6 / -0

No. You want spam removed? Pornography? Evil trolls who think nothing is a conspiracy, and only come here just to berate everyone? FE is in that same category. It's demoralizing spam. It's not a conspiracy. It's off-topic. No users would be permanently banned unless they kept flouting the rule. FE posts would be removed though.

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clemaneuverers 9 points ago +9 / -0

I remove spam, bots, trolls, the fucking Saviour etc. Now I'm proposing removing somethin equally unpleasant, annoying and contrary to the flourishing of this forum.

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clemaneuverers 4 points ago +4 / -0

FE is spam and should be treated as such. It's not conspiracy content. It designed to demoralize and mislead and waste people's time in investigating or arguing about. I'm sorry that you follow that guy, it's complete waste of your life. He's probably forgetting the passwords to his channels or something. No one needs to completely censor FE because it so dumb. But it does need to cleaned up and contained so we can have nice things.

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