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clemaneuverers 5 points ago +5 / -0

he still beleives viruses and bacteria cause and transmit disease

Source? Oh right, I forgot. You don't provide sources for your claims.

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clemaneuverers 2 points ago +2 / -0

The name of the community can't be changed. A bit like how post titles can't be changed.

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clemaneuverers 3 points ago +3 / -0

it is clear that none of the haters can debunk shit about it

It's regularly and thoroughly debunked in all corners of the internet, including here. It doesn't make a blind bit of difference, FE people always declare themselves the winner in every argument. If you enjoy reading crazy conspiracies maybe you don't belong here? This is a place for conspiracy theories and facts, not "crazy" conspiracies. A link to the FE community would be provided in the side bar.

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clemaneuverers 4 points ago +4 / -0

Placing FE among other conspiracies as equal shows a profound lack of knowledge and/or caring about these types of things. Lack of caring whether they are real or not, or a presumption that they are all as false as FE, and only worth looking at for a chuckle. If it's all equally bullshit to you, your opinion is worthless, and your passionate defense of the thickest bullshit in the bunch is utterly bizarre. I guess it's about defending free speech or censorship rather than FE? If so, that is a weak argument for many reasons that I'm tired of typing out over and over. Read some of my replies to other users.

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clemaneuverers 3 points ago +3 / -0

FE isn't so cut and dry as looking up sports results

it absolutely is cut and dry. it's neither a conspiracy nor a fact, and fully refuted by very many true and demonstrable things. Of all the bullshit topics that get posted here it is by far the worst. If you think some FE has made a compelling argument you either don't even bother to scrutinize their "arguments", have low standards, or just don't take conspiracy theorizing very seriously. Maybe it is just a laugh for you. That's completely fine, but you can easily find the low standard entertaining bullshit topics you desire in communities dedicated to such things.

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clemaneuverers 2 points ago +2 / -0

if that was my intention, I would not have even created this debate, I would just have just started removing the posts. Some users in thread are asking why I don't just do that, they want me to do that. Well this is why, to try and instill confidence that other topics will not just be removed willy-nilly. I'm not interested in stifling debate. But FE is not just some conspiracy you haven't got round to looking into yet. It's a trojan horse for a conspiracy forum.

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clemaneuverers 4 points ago +4 / -0

No one doesn't want you to know that the earth is flat because it is not a conspiracy and not a fact. It's a non issue. No one is trying to hide anything about it. And It's off topic for this forum. if some dude kept posting sports results here, and I removed those off-topic posts - would you get all butt hurt about censorship then? Even worse, what if he was posting fake sports results that weren't even accurate in any way? Should his freedom of speech defended at all costs?

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clemaneuverers 1 point ago +1 / -0

FE being present here at all is a big deal. Other (more specific) conspiracy forums I see make a point of banning it outright because of the notoriously destructive effect of it's proponents on their forum. This place can't get any better with it here, it can only get worse. Why wait until it gets much worse to do something about it?

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clemaneuverers 6 points ago +6 / -0

it's no 90% but lets pretend like it is for sake of argument. This board is for conspiracy theories and conspiracy facts. FE is neither. When it's banned, then only 80% will be garbage, and maybe that raising of standards will have a knock on effect and reduce that percentage even more, naturally as people will post better things. This is an attempt to improve things. Or perhaps you actually come here to wallow in shit? If so you could simply find somewhere else to do that.

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clemaneuverers 6 points ago +6 / -0

Let me ask you, should someone who says transwomen are women be taken seriously? Should their right to assert such be defended by free speech absolutists? If you said they were flat out wrong, are you biased? If you don't accept their assertion, is that your own idea? Or is some evil three letter agency denying transwomens' right to existence?

FE is like the tranny agenda. It demands you accept the blatant assertion of a falsehood as an irrefutable truth or fact. The earth's approximate shape is like the two sexes of mammals - obvious facts of the physical world. There is still some mystery to both, but it's not in their existence; the mystery is in where they come from, why they are.

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clemaneuverers 4 points ago +4 / -0

Read some of my replies. No other topic is under threat. No slippery slope. This is a case of taking out some trash that people keep leaving here, and banning them from doing it again. I presume you don't live in your own filth? FE is not a conspiracy, nor a fact. It is on par with spam. It's off-topic. It may even be designed to destroy conspiracy forums, as is my suspicion.

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clemaneuverers 3 points ago +3 / -0

FE is designed to destroy conspiracy forums. it's not just "another conspiracy". Please read some of my other responses. Allowing FE contributes to forum destruction, banning it would aid in forum flourishing. It's a simple standard, like taking out the trash before it stinks up your home.

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clemaneuverers 1 point ago +1 / -0

FE is being inorganically pushed and wont naturally go away. Watch the Paulstal Service videos on the topic from a few years ago when the topic began showing up all over YouTube suddenly and being recommended by the algo - There was no related event that triggered that. What triggered it was the growing popularity in questioning the 9/11 narrative among other conspiracy theorizing. My suspicion is it is part of the Cass Sundstein project to infiltrate and discredit conspiracy theorists forums. The videos are in this archive, scroll down and watch anything that has flat earth in the title:

https://archive.org/details/OrlandoShootingHoaxAngelColonDoctorsFullPressConference/flatearth1.mp4

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clemaneuverers 4 points ago +4 / -0

FE posting is like a user coming here to make posts asserting that transwomen are women. If someone came here and constantly made such posts, was abusive to all who argued against their false assertions, inserted the trans agenda into every other topic, called all respondents liars and claimed victory in every argument despite how much they get owned - the reports would be fast and furious. Everyone would demand that the ridiculous troll with the trans agenda be banned. Every single user here arguing about free speech would demand that troll be banned. No-one would defend their free speech.

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clemaneuverers 7 points ago +7 / -0

It is literally not legitimate anyway. It is a complete fabrication.

Your example of the car could be a legitimate conspiracy if it could be proven, or evidence found that indicates it's true. Stated without evidence it's weak and should be challenged.

FE is already fully disproven for a very very long time. All evidence for it is completely fabricated and assumptive, and often it is outright lies and misrepresentations of the facts - this is clearly done in bad faith. Maybe the people presenting it do not realize this, maybe they didn't come up with it - but they (attempt to) defend it like they came up with it.

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clemaneuverers 2 points ago +2 / -0

then you don't care about this place and it makes no difference to you if it sinks or floats. Opinion discarded. You can go to the FE community for your entertainment.

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clemaneuverers 2 points ago +2 / -0

FE is more than stupid. It is a cult posing as a scientific argument that presents itself as the ultimate conspiracy. The only effect it has is to lower the IQ of any forum it is discussed on. It is not like "religious posts" - many very intelligent people are religious yet know the earth is not flat.

Allowing FE is encouraging it. Engaging with it, even to criticize it, encourages it. It's a cancer that needs to be cut out from here.

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clemaneuverers 2 points ago +2 / -0

It is not hypocritical because there may be some inkling of truth in a shitty low effort post, or a good discussion may result from it. Or they may give people a laugh.

FE are less than low quality, and it's not even funny to see people believing it or trying to engage with it. It's only destructive, toxic, false, malignant bullshit. It's sad and wrong that people get taken in by it. And in general engaging with it in anyway way ends up encouraging it, supporting it. If it wasn't allowed here that would make this place far better.

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clemaneuverers 4 points ago +4 / -0

you absolutely don't need to go to space to know the earth is round. You can deduce it from the stand point of living on it and observing. It was worked out from the ground first, thousands of years before the "space age". Since then it has been further proven in numerous different ways by numerous different, unconnected people at different times independently, and those experiments and proofs done correctly will give the same, reproducible result even today. Such things happened long before even air-flight or satellites. No final proof was needed from the space age. There was no doubt. It is an objective truth that's known for certain for a very long time.

They were not theoretical arguments either, not merely evidence that indicates something - they are clear and precise deductions based on practical observations of ongoing phenomena, for which is no other satisfactory explanation. You can perform them yourself to check their validity and never need to go to space. It's the best type of science there is - Foccult's Pendulum for example - practical, reproducible and done correctly always gives the same predictable result. There is no conspiracy at all here. Only invented lies and waffle intended to waste time and discredit and delegitimize places where truth seekers gather.

You saying you cannot know the earth is round, when of course you can, is giving a boost to FEers. It is incorrect. Please reconsider this stance if it is the only basis for your NAY.

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