i watched "flat earth" go from a bullshit forum where people could practice debating an indefensible topic, to something rappers and retards all think is real.
it's depressing people are this stupid.
religion isn't the answer, not for me anyway.
if you're a better person thanks to religion thats great for you, but IMO religion is just part of the problem.
you're right about everything else, building a homestead for you and your family is the way to go. buy cheap land in the middle of nowhere and become self-sufficient. it's the only way to get out from under their boot.
solar, well and/or rainwater collection, gardening, chickens/rabbits/goats/etc...
...and gun ownership.
that is how you stick it to them.
they use force against you.
they tax you, fine you, fee you, and fuck you until you come in and bend over and take that authoritarian dick in the ass like you were told to.
this is all being done on purpose to crush individualism and push people under government control.
you either suck their dick or you can suffer.
vote for them or suffer.
...and maybe if you're a good little sheep and do exactly as your told you might be permitted to have a small BBQ with close family on the 4th of july
you know... independence day...
if you own all the farmland, you can control food production
if you control food production, you can control distribution
if you control distribution, you can ensure that only cities get the food to "punish" people who don't want to live in judge-dredd style urban centers
can't have people living on their own without dependence on government
get in your pod and eat your bugs
or else
yep, and once again the "flat earth" fable is used as a weapon against anyone who questions the government narrative.
if you haven't figured it out yet, "flat earth" was invented to do exactly this.
anytime anyone wants to talk about something shady the government is doing, they go straight to flat earth or birds aren't real, or 9/11 controlled demo.
the movement is comprised of more trolls than people who actually believe it.
like the KKK these days is more FBI/DOJ/BATFE than it is actual members of the KKK
yeah it's a simple response... bullshit.
when the system fails it looks like freefall because it is. when the damaged area can no longer support the weight of the building above, it fails spectacularly.
that doesn't mean someone, or a team of someone's was somehow able to spend months cutting holes in drywall to expose critical structural elements, making all the necessary weakening cuts on that critical structure, and rigging the buildings with explosives... while going completely unnoticed by the thousands of people who worked there every day.
when the buildings were damaged the remaining supports in that area were now required to hold extra weight/stresses. when those now stressed elements were then heated they reached a point where they could no longer hold the weight of the building above and the upper building fell through the damaged area.
i don't care how well you design a building, it's not able to "catch" the upper portions of a falling skyscraper.
they tend to be heavy, and inertia is a thing.
also
if you did rig a building with explosives, they would have gone off when the planes hit the building and the buildings would have fell right after the plane impacts.
and
rigging a building for demolition requires hundreds of miles of control wire and/or det cord chains to initiate the charges, which would have been blatantly obvious to the people who worked there.
lastly
if you spent all this time and energy rigging a building for explosion, why would you smash planes into those buildings risking severing the control wires rendering your demolition prep useless... thus risking the post event inspectors could find these devices and your entire plot would be discovered.
nothing about this "controlled demo" theory makes a bit of sense, it's a ridiculous theory designed to make people who question the things that happened that day look like complete morons. it's the reason people make fun of anyone who wants to talk about all the other shady shit that happened that day, or led up to that day, it's forever tainting the entire event so that i can't point out to people that we absolutely shot down that 4th plane without people accusing me of believing in utter nonsense controlled demo theories.
it was intentional, just as the OP here suggests, to discredit all investigations into the day and conspiracy theories in general.
...and why don't flights from the southern tip of south america to southern africa take 2 weeks?
flattards will never answer that one either.
i think you're correct, and i think 9/11 controlled demo is another example of what you're talking about.
it pisses people off every time i say it, i get accused of being a "shill" anytime i say it, but i don't give a fuck... i'll keep saying it.
controlled demo is a theory planted to make us all look like retards.
bring on the hate i don't give a fuck.
i haven't watched "TV" in over a decade and i'm sure as fuck not a "paid poster". Hate to break it to you but you aren't the arbiter of truth and people aren't mockingbird media just because someone doesn't drink your koolaid.
i'll keep looking for vids online of the muzzleflash coming from the room, i gotta be honest i just spent 10 minutes looking and couldn't find any but i remember seeing them. now all you find when you search is the news reports from that day, or people filming that blinking light on one of the lower floors... like 5-10 floors up vid taken from the taxi. youtube search is fucking dogshit lately they only show news station reports.
anyway here's one guy making a vid claiming to see flashes from the other hotel but what he's seeing is the plane flying past in the background... you can see the plane moving from left to right and he's only focusing on the moment just before the plane passes behind the second hotel...
but what his video does show is this: https://youtu.be/lfNbcStlWEU?t=416
people in the crowd saying at 7min in "he's shooting from the window"
i tend to trust people who were there more than i trust armchair quarterbacking 4 years later on a conspiracy board.
no offense...
anyway I own bumpstocks, so don't tell me to "go see real world examples" i've shot them, they are just a toy and they are pretty much worthless in a firefight because they cause malfunctions all the time. i bought 5 before they got banned, installed 1, took it off after a while and put it back in it's bag because it was just gay.
if you LISTEN to the shooting you can hear the gun firing at differing rates between rounds. a fully automatic weapon doesn't do that, it's like a sewing machine, it's got perfect cadence between shots. with full auto there are no peaks and valleys of inconsistency like you get with a bumpstock.
...like you hear during the vegas shooting
sometimes you can rattle off an entire mag, sometimes you get 5 or 6 rounds off before a malfunction.
thats why bumpstocks are a joke.
here's a vid where you can clearly hear the inconsistencies in rate of fire
if your theory was correct you wouldn't get that, you'd get that consistent rate of fire during the entire shooting. you can't just take one segment of the shooting that has the rate of fire you want to fit your theory, then reject all the parts of the shooting that don't have that fire rate.
also LOL @ that video of yours claiming a bumpstock has a consistent rate of fire of 800 rounds per minute... again it all depends on how hard you're pulling the gun into your finger, the recoil of the gun (weight of gun, grains/round), and the type of gun and stock being used... some bump stocks had better springs than others, some had a longer "stroke" (length of travel) on the spring stock...
again, if this was a fully automatic weapon it would have a consistent rate of fire in all salvos, not just one or two selectively edited into a video overlay for a comparison to fit a narrative.
as far as the spent brass... a chopper gunner has the gun hanging out over the edge of the floor, usually mounted, allowing the door gunner to shoot downward without hitting the helicopter if he needs to. they aren't going to bother bagging spent casings if they are doing something high profile like this. if you've got big enough balls to unload belts of full auto from a chopper hovering over one of the busiest cities in the country you aren't going to give two squirts of piss about your brass falling down on people below. IMO it's just ludicrous to think these shots came from a helicopter when you've got all the evidence you need that the rate of fire wasn't consistent.
also there's a reason you never hear 200 rounds in a row... the most you hear is 30, most of the time though you keep hearing 5-10 round volleys (thats his gay bump stocks fucking up).
if you're going to do what you suggested you would just hold down the fun button into the biggest pile of people until your were out. you wouldn't keep starting and stopping like you hear in the video.
like i said before if you listen to the entire thing you'll hear him switching guns. he dumps a mag, switches, dumps a mag, switches... at times you get long pauses while he reloads and re-racks all the guns to start again.
thats not what dumping belts of full auto sound like.
i'm all for a good conspiracy, but if it can't hold up to simple critique then you aren't doing the community any favors by regurgitating it.
we should all be our own worst critics because thats how you catch people poisoning the well with disinfo.
the easiest way to discredit all conspiracy theories is to inject bombastic nonsense into a controversial topic to get everyone to argue about the validity of the bullshit you made up. it's an old tactic that seems to works quite well here.
i feel exactly the same way about controlled demo of the towers on 9/11. i think it's a bullshit theory planted in the community intentionally to make us all look like blithering retards who aren't to be taken seriously. meanwhile all other legitimate questions get ignored because people are so busy fighting over the shit someone made up to distract people.
automatic machine guns from helicopters is exactly the same thing. it's easy to prove it wasn't either of those things so it makes us all look crazy when they push that narrative and get people to believe it.
meanwhile the real story is this asshole murdered a bunch of trump supporters because the media lied enough to push him over the edge.
just like the asshole that shot up that baseball practice.
but admitting that is not acceptable, because it means admitting that the media is responsible for this shit and they'll never take any responsibility for their actions. this is why we still don't have an answer after 4 years... because the real answer makes the left look bad for lying about trump and throwing gas on the fire they started.
anyway i never heard the shit about his GF, i'll dig into that as well because that could be bullshit too... or it could be true. i'll check it out.... but the security guard is an easy one...
he was an illegal. he was an idiot to go on ellen and he fucked off back across the boarder once the hotel company figured out that they had an illegal alien working for them and it was getting talked about.
EDIT: more video of the inconsistent fire rate due to bumpstocks. https://youtu.be/M8P8FPWhHw4
X2 here's the best i can find, i'll keep looking though https://youtu.be/wdpd2lHCz-U
i swear i saw better vid of the muzzle flash before but it's apparently gone now cause youtube sure as fuck doesn't want me to find it.
oh well, i can't find it so i guess i'm a super secret FBI CIA plant here to discredit real investigations into stealth helicopters and machine guns.
so much wrong with this.
for starters... there is zero proof paddock was dead before the shooting. thats a bold claim and i'm gonna need some sort of source on that that isn't ridiculous.
next, the window was clearly blown out, you can see muzzleflash coming from the room. unless you're now suggesting that was just a reflection from the top secret stealth black helicopters contracted to carry out this imaginary hit.
the police were talking about one of the rooms, he had setup in multiple rooms.
the sound of the gunfire is EXACTLY what a bumpfire sounds like, you can hear the bump stock causing the misfires. not sure if you've ever shot a gun with a bump stock but it's not some magical device that instantly converts the gun into a full auto, it's just a cheap way to accomplish rapid fire that requires the shooter to push the gun away from the shooter... essentially turning the shooters arm into a spring that pushes the shooters trigger finger into the trigger.
it sounds NOTHING like a full auto weapon, you can hear multiple different weapons being used, and you can hear the guns jam before he switches to the next gun.
the firing pattern is so sporadic and of different tones you can hear the difference within the same clips. he had a bunch of different guns and was running rounds where he would load them all, dump them all, then reload them all and start again... thats why there were such long pauses at times.
you can hear short pauses while he's switching guns, then a long pause while he's reloading all of them.
there is hallway cam footage of him taking tons of luggage carts up to his room... cart after cart of guns and ammo.
there are pics of the hotel room showing all the guns and spent shell casings...
i just can't imagine anyone thinking the fire came from automatic weapons, and especially from super secret black helicopters...
there would have been casings raining down on the city from the helicopters and would have been found by the public... it would have been all over social media.
lastly, and i don't know why i'm even typing this because it's so damn obvious... but if you have a crew of helicopter assassins... why wouldn't they just stay in the air over the princes hotel, wait for the guy to leave, then just unload on the caravan from the air. there's zero chance in hell the caravan can outrun a helicopter, it would be fish in a barrel.
I'll never believe it was anything other than a cult member who was propagandized by the far left media to shoot a bunch of trump supporters.
This is why you never hear the truth, because the truth is the media inspired this with their hate peddling.
it was right after trump won, after all that hate the media spewed, and some guy just decided to shoot a bunch of white country music concert fans.
A high level saudi would have been escorted out of the area by his security weather he was the target or not.
"ReAl cOMuNiSm HAs nEVer beEn TriEd"
bye felicia.
biden is nobody's president, he's got pudding between his ears, you voted for a literal retard.
we all know you guys cheated, everyone knows, you just can't admit it because you know what a cheap shallow meaningless temporary "victory" it is.
also LOL @ every single time you idiots get pwnt your reply is "u dun evan nogh wut soshalizm evan iz".
it's funny how you fucking morons want to rebel against the government by giving government total control of your life.
special kid of fucked in the head to come up with that.
hope you die... bye felicia.
but he's not though, and you know it.
you're just scared because everyone knows now how socialists have been able to barely stay in power... by cheating. Everyone now knows just how unpopular you guys are. you're pouring everything you can into convincing people that you have ANY good ideas at all... and it's still barely working.
all of hollywood, all of the news media, all of social media... literally the complete and total stranglehold on information...
and you're still barely holding on... the harder you scumbags push your failed ridiculous narrative, the more you push everyone away.
nobody trusts the news anymore, everyone is turning on cancel culture and SJW's... even the sympathetic people are realizing it's all a commie grift, nobody gives a fuck what "celebrities" think...
all your influence is slipping away, and now everyone sees how poorly your side does in power. the month and a half of biden has already changed the metric so much that if the election were held again it would be a landslide even you douchebags wouldn't be able to steal.
you're fucking doomed. lol.
you had to cheat to get rid of trump, everyone knows it now... and if any of these court cases gain traction you're fucked.
in fact you should HOPE the courts figure it out and put trump back in because if we go myanmar... like i hope we do... you guys are completely fucked.
enjoy it while it lasts, it won't be much longer now.
no matter what you think about solar here's what i know.
not having a power bill is nice... not worrying about grid failures or having your power shutoff for "mean tweets" or "dangerous beliefs" or "refusal to get jeckted" is pretty damn nice as well.
the story vanished as soon as the x-ray's went out of the "explosive devices" that had zero ignition method. you could clearly see on the x-rays that there was no chance these were bombs, but just intended to look like them.
i don't think the x-rays were ever intended to go public.
as soon as all the bomb techs from around the world started calling bullshit, the story vanished.
it was 3 weeks of "dangerous Q supporters", 2 days of yeah well he still meant to make people think they were bombs and incite terror so he's still a right wing terrorist, and then nothing. complete radio silence on the entire situation.
I have, i've held fossilized bone, i know people who deal with this sort of shit for a living (a good friend from the neighborhood teaches this shit).
i don't for one second believe dinosaurs aren't real anymore than i believe birds are fake or the earth is flat.
everyone is free to believe what they want, i want to believe that "dinosaurs aren't real" is laughable and ridiculous.
but i'm not trying to stop anyone from thinking whatever they want to think about the subject.
cool story bro
bro i'm not even going to bother, you don't understand evolutionary mechanics to the point that you think it's a "hoax to brainwash us with evolution"... what could i possibly say to a person like you? better question... why would i bother?
we are just a grand canyon apart here and really couldn't care less about convincing you or "winning"... it's just ridiculous to me and i'm done with the conversation.
congrats on your... whatever.
have a better day.
Deny evolution all you want, i know it makes your child molester... errr... i mean religious leader happy, but you're still wrong.
people like you have a difficult time with time, you can't seem to understand that billions of years is a long time... but i guess that doesn't make much sense to someone who thinks the earth is 5,000 years old.
it's ok man, you can believe in whatever insane crazy nonsense you want to believe in... i don't have to agree with you for you to keep thinking the stuff you do.
hope you have a better day.
Honestly it sounds completely ridiculous to me, i've found fossils, evolution is a thing, and books written hundreds of years ago to control people shouldn't be your basis of reality... but hey man we're all free to believe in whatever we want eh?
You just told this guy that dinosaurs never existed, not sure you're the expert on "poor answers".
Aside from that, I agree with you, there's zero chance that is a petrified tree.
...and he died 30 minutes after arriving at the hospital.
Not sure if you saw it or not but find a picture of the "devices" this guy supposedly planted.
Those giant white sundial looking shits gorilla glued onto them... those are 1 hour egg timers.
1 hour.
Planted 15 hours prior to the capitol hill "armed insurrection" which nobody had guns at.
1 hour...
Reminds me an awful lot of that "q bomber" guy who's devices looked real enough to scare people, but once the x-ray images got released to the public, bomb experts from all over the country noticed that the devices could not have have worked, they were inert, and posed no danger to anyone.
PANIC PANIC PANIC
they are trying to take guns, it's one of their stated goals, and they know damn well that if they just do it with a pen stroke people will revolt.
so.
they need a public event, and they need a bad one.
make no mistake about it, these people HATE you and they will stop at nothing to disarm you.
lol
no it's not, please stop de-legitimizing good conversation with nonsense.