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Polaris: the North Star; and Ursa Major: the Big Dipper. This constellation has guided men home for millions of years, which is why we find it symbolized in hundreds of different, isolated civilizations (media.scored.co)
posted 13 days ago by CottonHill 13 days ago by CottonHill +20 / -0
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– Hey11 1 point 11 days ago +1 / -0

I am not sure what the picture is representing, but Polaris (the North star) is at the tail of the constellation Ursa Major - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris

The symbol would be out of context because you chose 4 specific dates. It goes round and round in a circle throughout the year, why isn't the symbol a circle then?

I am not very convinced about all those symbols, because I recognize some of them and they are false:

  1. Christianity never used a swastika. If you dig around, you'd find that the swastika is of Hindu origin, therefore, it wouldn't be at all Christian to use it. Christian symbols remain to this day - the fish, the cross, the dove. Nothing else.

  2. Hindu religion doesn't include the hexagram. I was able to find this strange symbol of swastika in a hexagram used by the UFO society - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism

I don't know about the rest, but I am not at all convinced this picture is showing any truth. Therefore, it would be folly to derive any truth from it.

I would encourage anyone here to do their own research.

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– RootLevelPrivilege 2 points 10 days ago +2 / -0

I saw this post Friday and was going to respond and decided not to because I am pretty sure that no one here wants to hear about real astronomy and physics and whatever. But since you said something, I gotta say that, no if you read the Wikipedia link you posted, Polaris is in the tail end of The Little Dipper / Ursa Minor. And yes, in fact the Big Dipper does revolve around the pole as in the meme posted, almost like it is drawing out a swastika (if you only look at 90 degree increments).

That said, the original post is not correct and I cannot really believe that the historical swastika symbol has much to do with the Polaris and Ursa Major. This is because, notwithstanding all the flat earth / space is fake conspiracies, Polaris is not permanently the earth's pole star. It is not really even aligned today, currently being more than 3/4 of a degree away from the north pole (this is 1.5 times the size of the full moon). Even 2000 years ago (let alone "millions") the star we call Polaris was pretty far from the pole. Ancient Greek writings indicate that the pole was relatively devoid of stars. Even 1000 years ago it was not aligned, and it was not until the Renaissance that the star got the name "Stella Polaris" even though it was still more than 3 degrees from the pole at the time.

The alignment of Polaris with the north pole will continue to improve until the middle of the next century, at which point it will start moving away. All of this can be found in the Wikipedia article you linked and its generic Pole Star article as well. I am only pointing this out because one thing I notice in these sorts of debates is that generally both sides say incorrect things, which is why the "shape of the earth" debate continues despite there being literally zero room for science to be wrong about this question.

I personally do find nature to be very beautiful and existence and reality to be amazing, but I never understand why people attach so much significance to some of these things. I have been consuming a lot of material in that generic "shape of the earth" type area of the internet, and while some are just biblical literalists, there is a faction that are almost like the right wing version of new age / hippie types.

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– Hey11 1 point 10 days ago +1 / -0

Thank you for the correction on the Ursa major/minor. I was incorrect on that one. I'm also glad you commented!

You seem pretty knowledgeable about space. I would benefit greatly if you could share your insights about some things I've found... You probably know these already, but if you don't, can I ask you some questions about space, or near space? For example:

  1. Do you believe that oxygen in the air (O2) turns into ozone (O3) with higher altitude? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone

  2. Do you know that oxygen can freeze? Solid ice made out of oxygen, did you know about it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik9J9NgBhoc (4.2K)

  3. What is the temperature in space, according to your knowledge? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_space (2.7K)

So, based on all these, it would seem like there is a wall of ice created by the oxygen in our atmosphere. I might be wrong again, so you would be helping me greatly if you could take a look and let me know of your conclusions.

Thank you in advance!

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– RootLevelPrivilege 3 points 10 days ago +3 / -0

I am not an astronomer. I'm an engineer, but I do have a general interest in space because I like physics and all that. I'll assume your questions are in good faith and try to provide answers.

  1. I am not a chemist and don't work with ozone, but the conventional science claims about ozone, how it is produced, and the so called "layer" where it has a significant concentration in the stratosphere are well known. I have no reason to doubt those claims, but would look into anything someone offered that was disputing them. Otherwise, as far as I know, ozone (O3) exists, can be made from ordinary oxygen (O2), and there is a layer with a lot of it in the stratosphere.

  2. I am not familiar with the oxygen phase diagram, but I took thermodynamics as a part of engineering school so I am aware of the fact that pretty much everything can exist as a solid, liquid, and gas (and even plasma), although the conditions may be extreme. The video you linked shows that the triple point of O2 is around 54.4 K and 0.0015 bar. Further, you can get some data on solid oxygen at Wiki. I have no reason to doubt these numbers, but would not vouch for them.

  3. The "temperature of space" is dependent upon where you are. The temperature you are quoting is the background temperature that would be expected far from anything. Near the earth, there is tremendous variation from the day side to the night side. The day side sees sun no different than we would see in the tropics, but even stronger since there is no atmospheric filtration. The night side can get closer to the background temperature of space, but still substantially higher because the warm earth radiates up at you. If you move far enough away from the earth that this is negligible, then the notion of "the night side" goes away because the earth gets smaller and smaller the farther away you get. For example, a full solar eclipse is what "the night side" of the moon looks like from earth, if that makes sense.

I don't want to attribute something to you that you are not saying, but it kind of sounds like you are asking a firmament sort of question. I am not sure if this "wall of oxygen ice" you are referring to is supposed to be a dome over a flat earth or a bubble surrounding a spherical earth. In either case, it seems rather doubtful to me. This question need not even apply to oxygen. That just makes it seems more mysterious (and therefore plausible). But your question could just be in regards to ordinary water ice, since water will be frozen at the background temperature of space. So in that case, why is there no wall of water ice in the sky?

We all know why, of course. Ice is too heavy and not strong enough hold itself up like this. Igloos are limited in size, and such a wall needs to hold together during the sunshine on the day side of the earth which will warm and soften it. Using the density quoted at the Wikipedia article I linked, oxygen ice is also too dense to form such a giant sky wall, although it does seem to be less dense than water ice.

If you are asking about a firmament, it does not bother me if people believe these things but I'll tell you that it is not too difficult to understand how the atmosphere remains attached to the earth and does not just evacuate into space.

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– Hey11 1 point 10 days ago +1 / -0

Sorry, I didn't understand why you avoid answering the temperature around the Earth in Kelvin...

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