no one can explain this conversation

Because converse implies "turning together", which no ONE can explain without contradicting the other.

grown...rather than engineered.

Engine implies "within generation" aka growth within loss. Growth can be tricked with other growth to ignore loss...which represents social engineering.

almost like a recipe

All generates each one...few trick most of many to respond alike by joining together which represents recipe/recipere - "to take, hold, contain".

Artificially putting together what nature sets apart represents the alchemy of synthesis, which requires recipients to take and hold the synthesis together during the natural process of analysis.

we know that when you put in the flour, the eggs, and the milk...you'll get out the cake.

That's Cameron Bergstein suggesting tikkun olam (repairing the world by bringing together) aka distracting gentiles from nature dividing the flour; the eggs, and the milk from one another for analysis, by suggesting the synthesis of "cake" which represents a tempting outcome.

"Let them eat cake" because "The cake is a lie"...

we know...nobody understands

Because understanding corrupts knowledge...one cannot be at the edge of known, while standing under another.

Anthropic

Aka entrophy; noun - "measure of the disorder of a system"...system represents fiction; disorder implies reality; and measure implies many holding onto suggestions, which permits few control over systems (synthesis) during disorder (analysis).

what we have right now are powerful systems which are fundamentally mysterious

Aka artificial systems making the natural foundation of mind (fundamental) a mystery for powerless gentiles, wasting their power holding onto suggestions, by each powerful jew.

The natural foundation of mind implies balance, which is why lessening the power of ones choice fills the power of a chosen one.