Jesus acknowledged that the Jews were the descendants of Abraham, but that they weren’t the “children of Abraham” or the “children of God” anymore, but the “children of the devil”. Since Abraham is not their father, but the devil is, the promises that God gave to Abraham of those blessing Abrahams children being blessed does not apply to the Jews. They rejected Christ and are the children of the devil and not Abraham.
In John 8:37 Jesus said “I know you are Abraham’s descendants”.
in vs. 38, “If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would[c] do what Abraham did.”
In vs 42, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God.
In vs 44, “You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires.“
See now you're taking your invention and reading it into the OT too. Your inability to see the text because of your blinder laid over it is the whole problem.
You define "child of Abraham" or "covenant" person as (1) biological Jews for a period and then (2) believers in Jesus for a later period. This allows you to cut history into two periods where (1) lineage gave promises and (2) it doesn't (with no reason for the change other than misreading Jesus's words). But you immediately also change the promises because Christians haven't controlled the Holy Land most of 2,000 years either. If you actually believed the land promise hadn't changed you'd accept the idea of Israel being run by majority Messianic Jews in the future because they would be Christian; but you don't speak like you do. So your position is wholly inconsistent and based on a proposition that isn't there, the idea that all national texts are spiritualized and the thousands of years where they were taken as literal promises have been broken by God.
Test questions: How did people get saved or in covenant before Abraham?
How did non-biological Jews get saved or in covenant, like Shuah's daughter, the mixed multitude of Egyptians, the Gibeonites, the Kenites, Ruth, the Samaritans, etc.?
How did those Jews who apostasized from God in the OT get handled, did they receive the covenant no matter how evil they were, or were they excluded by being recognized as not having the faith of Abraham?
Why do you say "biological Jews" to refer to "children of Abraham" when Jews are only descended from Judah the great-grandson of Abraham; do you mean "biological Israelites"?
Why were Ishmael, Midian, and grandson Esau not "children of Abraham" in your view if they had the same genes and, you say, had no less faith than their siblings; do you mean God chose Abraham and Isaac but not all their children?
But if God was free to choose from among the biological children of Abraham and Isaac, then why do you act like he was not free to chose from among the biological children of Israel or Judah but that the spiritual covenant was biological?
Are you racist when you imply biological Jews got the national and spiritual covenant for 1,800 years without reference to their lack of faith but only with reference to biology (sounds like a preference among races to me)?
Are you prepared to exposit every passage about biology to say that its meaning changed from what people always took it to mean literally and all such literal passages once were literally accurate but God changed their meaning secretly with a single proclamation of Jesus?
Why don't you exposit Ezekiel 36:24-26 that way and explain how Christians enter into a spiritual land before they are given a new heart?
These people were only the "COA" by joining the Israeli nation. In no way could you be a "COA" when you didn't join the Jewish nation before Christ.
The Jews were descended from Abraham and Jacob. The biological descendants of Jacob had a covenant from God. The Jews claimed they were the "COA" because of there biological descent. Jesus said they weren't and instead the children of the devil because they didn't believe in him. Therefore the covenant given to "COA" doesn't belong to them anymore.
They were the "COA", but had a different set of covenants and blessings than the bloodline of Jacob. If they don't believe in Jesus, then they aren't the "COA" anymore.
Jews are the "children of the devil" and not messianic according to God HIMSELF. Get that in your head. The promise land doesn't belong to them. If the Jews become Christian, it still won't because there is no "ethnic" separation in Christianity.
"COA" as an abbreviation is your own invention, nobody uses it, it makes you look even sillier as you don't realize you're inventing it.
Naaman the Syrian. Nebuchadnezzar (Daniel 4).
So you're agreeing with me that different races have different covenants. And Ishmael's land covenant seems to be alive and kicking, despite their rejection of Jesus (1-2 billion Muslims). I wonder why you don't think Israel's land covenant is. You somehow think that the blessings to Jacob were all one (spiritual and national) rather than divisible into ordinary biological and spiritual open to all (as the OT regularly shows).
You still haven't answered how the covenant worked before Abraham. Seems like before then the spiritual covenant was available to all too.
Only said to a handful of Jews by another Jew who had a million Jewish followers that century and another million Jewish followers right now who call themselves Messianic and worship Jesus. Sounds like you want to make a comment to a single crowd applicable as a national cursing to tens of millions of people indefinitely.
You finally drop your endgame. You believe Jewish Christians have no greater right to the Holy Land than Gentile Christians. Well, I don't argue eschatology, but it seems that in the end where all Christians are agreed then there would be no reason to forbid the Jewish Christians from carrying out their Hebrew culture in the Holy Land any more than we would forbid Chinese Christians from carrying out Chinese culture in China.
Work on that covenant prior to Abraham and see if you're not excluding people that God doesn't exclude.
Wow, violation of rule 1 right here.
He wasn’t a COA.
Ishmael had no land covenants. The current state of Islamic countries being mostly 2nd world has nothing to do with Gods’ covenant.
Never had a million Jewish followers the first century and Jewish culture is based off people who don’t believe in God and are “children of the devil”. Christians are a small minority of Jews right now, so Jewish culture is based on being the “COD”.
The Jews aren’t the “COA”, so they don’t have any right to the land. Simple as that.
You're free to report me. Describing your appearance after repeated evidence of illogic is a bit different from attacking your person.
The point of the text is that Naaman, and Nebuchadnezzar, and others, worshipped the God of Israel as sole power, and were accounted faithful for that reason. They were not told that they had no power to enter the covenant due to race, which would be racist. Let me know when you figure out how people before Abraham, and Gentiles before Christ, could enter into the covenant, because if you don't figure it out you have a racist Christianity that isn't available to whomsoever wills. How could Noah find favor in God's eyes if he was going to hell for not being Jewish?