Jesus acknowledged that the Jews were the descendants of Abraham, but that they weren’t the “children of Abraham” or the “children of God” anymore, but the “children of the devil”. Since Abraham is not their father, but the devil is, the promises that God gave to Abraham of those blessing Abrahams children being blessed does not apply to the Jews. They rejected Christ and are the children of the devil and not Abraham.
In John 8:37 Jesus said “I know you are Abraham’s descendants”.
in vs. 38, “If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would[c] do what Abraham did.”
In vs 42, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God.
In vs 44, “You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires.“
That’s a fair point, I don’t think it has to do with Jews but with the “children of God”.
Some of those children are Jews as well as Gentiles and Ephraimites (which encompasses the rest of the tribes to be united). I'm also expecting to be suprised by Ishmael, for the good.
That’s fair, I don’t disagree. God will be a righteous judge and rightly decide who can inhabit that land.
I wholeheartedly concur!
This was very good to think out, thanks for the conversation. I could talk about this stuff allday
Same, I love talking about religion. I’m glad that there seems to be a movement towards God in the west. I’ve been seeing way more young people talk about God openly in real life and on social media.
Have you been around the c/Eschatology board?
This is good:
[c/Eschatology](https://communities.win/c/Eschatology) /c/Eschatology/p/19AduSDIms/who-is-ephraim-and-what-does-tha/c
Edit: it's a crosspost so original is at c/Christianity /c/Christianity/p/19AduSDIij/
Neither link are linking right and I forget the fix right now...
to be continued...
This is the real link anyway: https://web.archive.org/web/20250316214559/https://www.hebrewrootsmelbourne.com/post/ephraim-and-rachel
I have not been around those boards, thank you for sharing them with me. I’ll go check ‘em out for sure.
When you include both the forum link and the post link, spell out the forum link with https as follows:
which resolves as "c/Christianity". Then the post link c/Christianity/p/19AduSDIij/ doesn't go haywire.