Monad as all Consciousness, but you also have him apparently unable to communicate, yet still able to emanate. It seems that if all emanates from the Monad then all must be present in the Monad, both communication and silence, for instance
This is a long reply from you and most has to do with you defending the jews and the church. At least that's my take at first glance. I'll attempt to reply to your first point, communication and silence. And it's an important point because most people think most important messages are communicated through words & speeches. They are not. In a world saturated with noise, constant notifications, opinions competing for attention, and an endless demand for expression, what if the greatest truth was never meant to be spoken aloud? Imagine that the most transformative teachings of Jesus were not delivered primarily through sermons, commandments, or even miracles, but through something far more demanding, subtle, and powerful. Silence.
Most people imagine Jesus as a teacher who spoke in parables, addressed crowds, and challenged religious authorities with words. Yet beneath the surface of the canonical narratives and echoed through mystical traditions passed from generation to generation, there exists another image of Jesus. Jesus, the silent mystic, a man who frequently withdrew from society, who chose silence at decisive moments and who embodied a wisdom that transcended language itself. The silence of Jesus was not passive. It was intentional, disciplined and deeply transformative. This dimension of his path has been preserved not only in scripture but also in esoteric Christianity, hermetic philosophy and the contemplative traditions that valued inner transformation over outward display. After his baptism, Jesus does not immediately begin teaching or gathering followers. He enters silence, 40 days and 40 nights away from distraction, identity, and social affirmation. In mystical symbolism, the desert represents the stripping away of illusion. It is where the false self dissolves and the essential self is revealed. Scholars such as Thomas Merton and Evelyn Underhill emphasize that genuine spiritual authority arises not from accumulation of knowledge but from the surrender of ego.
Why would Jesus choose silence when words could potentially save him? This question opens a doorway into mystical understanding. Silence in this context is alignment with a higher law. This alone affirms that the logos, the divine word, emerges from the eternal silence of the absolute. To return to silence is to return to the source of all creation, the Monad. Not Yahweh who could have saved him from being crucified. Jesus identified in the Gospel of John as the logos made flesh understood that speaking from ego fractures truth while silence preserves its integrity. You identify as a Covenant Christian, how often do you seek answers through noise, endless information and external voices? all these being sermons, songs and rituals performed in the church. What if the path you are searching for cannot be found through accumulation but through subtraction, through stillness rather than stimulation? Jesus did not merely recommend silence. He lived it as a spiritual technology, a method of awakening consciousness and aligning the human with the divine.
Many early Gnostics, some were Greeks but most were not, understood that Jesus taught on two levels simultaneously. One level was accessible through words, parables, and moral instruction. The other level was transmitted through presence, gesture, withdrawal, and silence. This deeper level was not meant to be explained openly because it could only be realized inwardly. Consider how often Jesus speaks in ways that conceals as much as it reveals. He tells his disciples that seeing they may not see and hearing they may not hear. This is not cruelty but precision. Silence functions as a veil that protects sacred knowledge from being reduced to concepts. Silence safeguards mystery so it can ripen within the soul. Available to everyone not just the elites. In the gospel accounts, there are moments when Jesus deliberately withdraws after performing miracles. He does not allow crowds to cling to the spectacle. Instead, he disappears into solitude. The Monad is found not in multiplicity, but in the ground of the soul, a place beyond images, beyond words, beyond form. Jesus lived from this ground. There is a profound teaching hidden in the way Jesus listens. He listens to the accused, to the sick, to those rejected by society. He does not rush to answer. His pauses are deliberate. Silence creates space and space allows truth to surface organically. This space is where transformation occurs. Jesus speaks only when speech serves alignment, never when it serves ego. This is why his words carry such enduring power. They are not reactions. They are emanations. Silence reveals what noise conceals. It exposes fear, attachment, and illusion. But it also reveals intuition, presence, and divine guidance.
Jesus's silent authority was more revolutionary than his spoken words. The silence embodied by Jesus was not only a personal spiritual discipline. It was a radical force that unsettled every structure built on fear, hierarchy, and control. Religious systems depend on interpretation, on authority mediated through words, laws, and rituals. Silence bypasses all of that. It cannot be regulated, taxed, or owned. This is why the silent presence of Jesus was far more threatening than his teachings. His stillness exposed the emptiness behind performative piety and external obedience. When Jesus retreats from public life, he is not escaping responsibility. He is reclaiming sovereignty of consciousness. In silence, Jesus remained inwardly free. This inner freedom made him immune to manipulation, praise or intimidation. Authorities could not negotiate with silence. They could not trap it in doctrine. they could only attempt to eliminate it. This explains why Jesus often instructed those he healed not to speak of it. When Jesus remains silent in moments of accusation or chaos, he is allowing the unconscious material of others to surface. People reveal themselves when no one rushes to fill the gap. Notice how silence shifts power. The one who speaks is often reacting. The one who remains silent observes. Jesus's silence was never avoidance. It was mastery of inner center, the divine spark. This is why his presence alone unsettled those around him. He did not need to dominate conversations or defend his identity. His authority came from alignment, not assertion. This path of silence is deeply connected to the supreme consciousness. Yet the path Jesus walked demands courage because silence dismantles illusion. It strips away borrowed identities and inherited beliefs. What remains is raw presence. This is why silence was transmitted only to those prepared. Not everyone wants truth. Many want reassurance. Silence offers neither comfort nor certainty. It offers reality. Jesus never forced this path. He invited, and withdrew when crowds misunderstood. He spoke plainly only to those who had tasted stillness.
I don't think of it as defending Jews and church, I think of it as seeking to understand each tradition in its context. Some gnostics hold that all traditions have truths in them, so I would presume that finding the true points in the Yahwist tradition would be just as appropriate as in any other tradition. (If people misrepresent Yahwists disproportionately, that actually indicates likelihood that they may have disproportionate amount of truth. If everyone has part of the truth there's no need to misrepresent anyone.) Since I've found reasons why these documents survive for millennia without people concluding they are hopelessly contradictory as atheists tend to decide on snap judgment, I share those reasons; I do the same with the Quran when it's misinterpreted the same way.
Now, your fine essay about silence makes decent points, which I'll interact with separately, but they seem consistent with my point that the Monad resolves all spectra such as the volume spectrum. Jesus, like the Monad, is master of speech and silence both, and both have purpose, so much so that they are one. Which is why I say the Monad has attributes. If we want to call the attributes emanations, that's possible, but then monism itself is also an attribute and so the name "Monad" should be demoted to being just another attribute of the Indescribable. (And by "Indescribable" and other negating or apophatic words I don't create further regress, I only point out that the unknowable cannot be approximated with any word but can only be negated as to its application to any word.) Calling it "Monad" is already attributing monism or unity to it. So I have no problem with other attributes.
most people think most important messages are communicated through words & speeches. They are not. In a world saturated with noise, constant notifications, opinions competing for attention, and an endless demand for expression, what if the greatest truth was never meant to be spoken aloud?
Yes, the greatest Truth is not a secondary message but a primary entity to be communed with by our secondary experiences. All words and speeches are reflections on this one Word of Truth. (Truth, Word, Entity are attributes of course.)
Silence in this context is alignment with a higher law. This alone affirms that the logos, the divine word, emerges from the eternal silence of the absolute. To return to silence is to return to the source of all creation, the Monad.
Fine. But you contrast this with a counterfactual hypothetical, one "who could have saved him from being crucified." We are told he prayed aloud (and also sometimes wordlessly) about the hypothetical, and note Matthew's words: "O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt .... O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done." First, if these words are accurate, he did pray to his Father as one by whom the cup could pass. Second, his resolution of the counterfactual was his realization that the cup would not pass unless he drank it. Not about being saved from being crucified (the false notion ascribed to his mockers), but about the suffering being over, which was to be accomplished by drinking it in.
Jesus identified in the Gospel of John as the logos made flesh understood that speaking from ego fractures truth while silence preserves its integrity.
Not sure what this means because to me "Ego" and "I Am" are the same thing and Jesus constantly uses the latter.
You identify as a Covenant Christian, how often do you seek answers through noise, endless information and external voices?
I seek answers in everything. For words I often answer in words; but Francis said, preach the gospel at all times, with words if necessary.
What if the path you are searching for cannot be found through accumulation but through subtraction, through stillness rather than stimulation?
Generically I regularly subtract (it's called fasting from things). Specifically feel free to make a recommendation.
Many early Gnostics, some were Greeks but most were not, understood that Jesus taught on two levels simultaneously. One level was accessible through words, parables, and moral instruction. The other level was transmitted through presence, gesture, withdrawal, and silence.
That's understood by many.
This deeper level was not meant to be explained openly because it could only be realized inwardly.
That's not the usual understanding. Most recognized that nonverbal communication can be further explained openly (as Jesus said about what is whispered being shouted). Paul gives a detailed theology of mystery in which what is realized inwardly has a destiny of being shared in words outwardly, while more mystery always remains. Your statement only applies to those mystics who refer to an "indescribable" (using only negative terms like this, apophatically), but they are not referring to the arcane but only to the concept that there is something in God beyond description. Those gnostics who acted like arcane wisdom exists that should be hidden because it contradicts the lower-level description were doing something different from all other communication of the period.
Consider how often Jesus speaks in ways that conceals as much as it reveals. He tells his disciples that seeing they may not see and hearing they may not hear.
That's paradox, driving someone deeper for the resolution.
This is not cruelty but precision. Silence functions as a veil that protects sacred knowledge from being reduced to concepts.
Perhaps, but then what is known is the "indescribable", not a verbal message that should remain hidden.
Jesus speaks only when speech serves alignment, never when it serves ego. This is why his words carry such enduring power. They are not reactions. They are emanations.
This is a long reply from you and most has to do with you defending the jews and the church. At least that's my take at first glance. I'll attempt to reply to your first point, communication and silence. And it's an important point because most people think most important messages are communicated through words & speeches. They are not. In a world saturated with noise, constant notifications, opinions competing for attention, and an endless demand for expression, what if the greatest truth was never meant to be spoken aloud? Imagine that the most transformative teachings of Jesus were not delivered primarily through sermons, commandments, or even miracles, but through something far more demanding, subtle, and powerful. Silence.
Most people imagine Jesus as a teacher who spoke in parables, addressed crowds, and challenged religious authorities with words. Yet beneath the surface of the canonical narratives and echoed through mystical traditions passed from generation to generation, there exists another image of Jesus. Jesus, the silent mystic, a man who frequently withdrew from society, who chose silence at decisive moments and who embodied a wisdom that transcended language itself. The silence of Jesus was not passive. It was intentional, disciplined and deeply transformative. This dimension of his path has been preserved not only in scripture but also in esoteric Christianity, hermetic philosophy and the contemplative traditions that valued inner transformation over outward display. After his baptism, Jesus does not immediately begin teaching or gathering followers. He enters silence, 40 days and 40 nights away from distraction, identity, and social affirmation. In mystical symbolism, the desert represents the stripping away of illusion. It is where the false self dissolves and the essential self is revealed. Scholars such as Thomas Merton and Evelyn Underhill emphasize that genuine spiritual authority arises not from accumulation of knowledge but from the surrender of ego.
Why would Jesus choose silence when words could potentially save him? This question opens a doorway into mystical understanding. Silence in this context is alignment with a higher law. This alone affirms that the logos, the divine word, emerges from the eternal silence of the absolute. To return to silence is to return to the source of all creation, the Monad. Not Yahweh who could have saved him from being crucified. Jesus identified in the Gospel of John as the logos made flesh understood that speaking from ego fractures truth while silence preserves its integrity. You identify as a Covenant Christian, how often do you seek answers through noise, endless information and external voices? all these being sermons, songs and rituals performed in the church. What if the path you are searching for cannot be found through accumulation but through subtraction, through stillness rather than stimulation? Jesus did not merely recommend silence. He lived it as a spiritual technology, a method of awakening consciousness and aligning the human with the divine.
Many early Gnostics, some were Greeks but most were not, understood that Jesus taught on two levels simultaneously. One level was accessible through words, parables, and moral instruction. The other level was transmitted through presence, gesture, withdrawal, and silence. This deeper level was not meant to be explained openly because it could only be realized inwardly. Consider how often Jesus speaks in ways that conceals as much as it reveals. He tells his disciples that seeing they may not see and hearing they may not hear. This is not cruelty but precision. Silence functions as a veil that protects sacred knowledge from being reduced to concepts. Silence safeguards mystery so it can ripen within the soul. Available to everyone not just the elites. In the gospel accounts, there are moments when Jesus deliberately withdraws after performing miracles. He does not allow crowds to cling to the spectacle. Instead, he disappears into solitude. The Monad is found not in multiplicity, but in the ground of the soul, a place beyond images, beyond words, beyond form. Jesus lived from this ground. There is a profound teaching hidden in the way Jesus listens. He listens to the accused, to the sick, to those rejected by society. He does not rush to answer. His pauses are deliberate. Silence creates space and space allows truth to surface organically. This space is where transformation occurs. Jesus speaks only when speech serves alignment, never when it serves ego. This is why his words carry such enduring power. They are not reactions. They are emanations. Silence reveals what noise conceals. It exposes fear, attachment, and illusion. But it also reveals intuition, presence, and divine guidance.
Jesus's silent authority was more revolutionary than his spoken words. The silence embodied by Jesus was not only a personal spiritual discipline. It was a radical force that unsettled every structure built on fear, hierarchy, and control. Religious systems depend on interpretation, on authority mediated through words, laws, and rituals. Silence bypasses all of that. It cannot be regulated, taxed, or owned. This is why the silent presence of Jesus was far more threatening than his teachings. His stillness exposed the emptiness behind performative piety and external obedience. When Jesus retreats from public life, he is not escaping responsibility. He is reclaiming sovereignty of consciousness. In silence, Jesus remained inwardly free. This inner freedom made him immune to manipulation, praise or intimidation. Authorities could not negotiate with silence. They could not trap it in doctrine. they could only attempt to eliminate it. This explains why Jesus often instructed those he healed not to speak of it. When Jesus remains silent in moments of accusation or chaos, he is allowing the unconscious material of others to surface. People reveal themselves when no one rushes to fill the gap. Notice how silence shifts power. The one who speaks is often reacting. The one who remains silent observes. Jesus's silence was never avoidance. It was mastery of inner center, the divine spark. This is why his presence alone unsettled those around him. He did not need to dominate conversations or defend his identity. His authority came from alignment, not assertion. This path of silence is deeply connected to the supreme consciousness. Yet the path Jesus walked demands courage because silence dismantles illusion. It strips away borrowed identities and inherited beliefs. What remains is raw presence. This is why silence was transmitted only to those prepared. Not everyone wants truth. Many want reassurance. Silence offers neither comfort nor certainty. It offers reality. Jesus never forced this path. He invited, and withdrew when crowds misunderstood. He spoke plainly only to those who had tasted stillness.
I don't think of it as defending Jews and church, I think of it as seeking to understand each tradition in its context. Some gnostics hold that all traditions have truths in them, so I would presume that finding the true points in the Yahwist tradition would be just as appropriate as in any other tradition. (If people misrepresent Yahwists disproportionately, that actually indicates likelihood that they may have disproportionate amount of truth. If everyone has part of the truth there's no need to misrepresent anyone.) Since I've found reasons why these documents survive for millennia without people concluding they are hopelessly contradictory as atheists tend to decide on snap judgment, I share those reasons; I do the same with the Quran when it's misinterpreted the same way.
Now, your fine essay about silence makes decent points, which I'll interact with separately, but they seem consistent with my point that the Monad resolves all spectra such as the volume spectrum. Jesus, like the Monad, is master of speech and silence both, and both have purpose, so much so that they are one. Which is why I say the Monad has attributes. If we want to call the attributes emanations, that's possible, but then monism itself is also an attribute and so the name "Monad" should be demoted to being just another attribute of the Indescribable. (And by "Indescribable" and other negating or apophatic words I don't create further regress, I only point out that the unknowable cannot be approximated with any word but can only be negated as to its application to any word.) Calling it "Monad" is already attributing monism or unity to it. So I have no problem with other attributes.
Yes, the greatest Truth is not a secondary message but a primary entity to be communed with by our secondary experiences. All words and speeches are reflections on this one Word of Truth. (Truth, Word, Entity are attributes of course.)
Fine. But you contrast this with a counterfactual hypothetical, one "who could have saved him from being crucified." We are told he prayed aloud (and also sometimes wordlessly) about the hypothetical, and note Matthew's words: "O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt .... O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done." First, if these words are accurate, he did pray to his Father as one by whom the cup could pass. Second, his resolution of the counterfactual was his realization that the cup would not pass unless he drank it. Not about being saved from being crucified (the false notion ascribed to his mockers), but about the suffering being over, which was to be accomplished by drinking it in.
Not sure what this means because to me "Ego" and "I Am" are the same thing and Jesus constantly uses the latter.
I seek answers in everything. For words I often answer in words; but Francis said, preach the gospel at all times, with words if necessary.
Generically I regularly subtract (it's called fasting from things). Specifically feel free to make a recommendation.
That's understood by many.
That's not the usual understanding. Most recognized that nonverbal communication can be further explained openly (as Jesus said about what is whispered being shouted). Paul gives a detailed theology of mystery in which what is realized inwardly has a destiny of being shared in words outwardly, while more mystery always remains. Your statement only applies to those mystics who refer to an "indescribable" (using only negative terms like this, apophatically), but they are not referring to the arcane but only to the concept that there is something in God beyond description. Those gnostics who acted like arcane wisdom exists that should be hidden because it contradicts the lower-level description were doing something different from all other communication of the period.
That's paradox, driving someone deeper for the resolution.
Perhaps, but then what is known is the "indescribable", not a verbal message that should remain hidden.
Perhaps; that would make him the Logos ....
SwampRangers is a jew