The false notion is that Christianity induces a fear based view.
Both fear and love towards God co-exist in the Christian, and MUST. By the fear of the Lord men depart from evil, we never outgrow the need for that but we learn to REPENT, making our need to lean on this aspect less and less frequent. The path of the just is like the shining light, that gets brighter and brighter unto the perfect day, another passage from Proverbs.
Basically what happens is as we grow in the Lord, fear gets swallowed up by Love :) In fact one telltale sign of the Love of God at work (rather than other types of love) is that it never displaces the fear of the Lord. They coexist
BUT
Christianity should never be "fear based." Everyone first comes to God as a lion; specifically, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. God put an Angel with a flaming fiery sword at the entrance to Eden after kicking Adam and Eve out of it, to make sure they weren't getting back in; I'm sure that was a scary sight! And it worked: had Adam and Eve been thinking about going back into Eden, they saw that and REPENTED! They changed their mind and decided it would not be a good idea, which is exactly what "repent" means. Without the fear of the Lord they wouldn't have departed from that particular evil.
Christianity does have paradox. And mystery! But if your Faith is actually based on fear something's horribly wrong, and hopefully you're being driven by the Holy Spirit to address that right quick ..."
Since we have been transformed by Christ, we should “take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them” (Ephesians 5:11, ESV). The “unfruitful works of darkness” include things like sexual immorality, impurity, covetousness, filthiness, foolish talk, and crude joking (verses 3–4). These things are unfruitful because they do not produce the Righteousness of God. In contrast, believers should “walk as children of light (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true)” (verse 9). By walking in the light, we can “discern what is pleasing to the Lord” (verse 10).
Meanwhile what does your worldview offer, hmmm???
Why does anyone like, prefer, seek truth? Instead of whats false? Instead of not?
Why is anyone OFFENDED by nontruths/lies? Not just "let it fly", not "happy", but OFFENDED? Pretty unnecessary in a "no-God" view.
Hallmarks of athiests:
Misunderstand/dont want to understand Christianity (With you, yes)
Most focus their negative energy on Christianity more than other belief systems. (more general - behavior visible across many types of nonChristians) (Partly)
Use many logical fallacies (With you, yes)
Probably believe in evo, bigbang, millions years (Probably but not know)
Believing in a naturalistic and limited grasp of parts of the Bible. A degraded version of what God has said. Sorta like the "Telephone game". (With you, yes)
human nature is to repel away from the Biblical God, so He canNOT be made up. So people are more comfy with evo than BIBLICAL Christianity.
Ever notice how humanity has such an adverse shock reaction to Christianity, despite it being very famous and allegedly believed by 2 billion? If it is so famous and widely believed and teaches love, hope, joy, mercy, peace, why do people have such a lash out anger reaction to it?? Weird. No other religion has these traits. If Christianity is made up no one should lash out, everyone should be cozy. People are cozyier to other religions than Christianity it seems.
"The probability of the universe creating itself in a one off event with the fine tuning that is present is 1 in 10 to the 10 to the 123rd. (Roger Penrose, an atheist physicist calculated it.) How big is that number? You could liken it to a blind guy floating in the universe and told to pick one certain particle and he does it first try. u/Mrexreturns But not just one universe but a billion. THAT is why they have resorted to the rediculous theory of a random universe generator (really!)."
Notion/nocere - "come to know"...hence motion (all perceivable) bringing notion (ones perception) into being. Others suggest true and false to tempt emotion into conflict.
induces a fear based view
Being implies within (in) lead (duce)...others suggest hope and fear to distract one with outcomes from origin.
towards God
God towards...each one within responses to being (life) forwarded (inception towards death).
Both fear and love towards God co-exist in the Christian
God implies singularity; to christen implies the anointment of each one within...few suggest existentialism to tempt together into co-existence.
Coexistence implies ones ignorance of singularity for the manifold.
Only God gives (inception) and takes (death) being (life)...few trick many to take suggested information into mind/memory as measurement.
depart from evil
Evil implies versus good, hence not departing apart from one another, but turning against one another into mutual conflict.
like the shining light
Light generates a spectrum, which separates each distinct ray in-between bright/dark and from one another....others suggest likeness to corrupt the visible spectrum of light aka the "browning" of the world.
One cannot have (possess) a basis...one (partial) can only come into being within a singular basis (whole). Coming into being implies divination aka the division of all into each one during motion.
for making that assertion.
Only while being FORwarded can one make something...to assert (join together) tempts one to ignore that forward motion (inception towards death) divides matter (life) from one another.
Assertion implies a synthesis (joining together); being implies analysis (divided apart)...others trick being with assertion into denying self.
a) ...BEFORE aka being (life) forwarded (inception towards death) aka one singular progression for each ones potential within.
b) Ones mind can be tricked to acknowledge one another as more than one aka pluralism.
c) Can you describe an example for any effect that has more than one cause?
d) Can one be more or less than oneself? Growing from infancy into an adult and then shrinking into an elderly...where's the plurality in that singular curvature?
Yes, just as there are other lights and one true Light, there are other judges and one true Judge. Look into Michael Heiser's dissertation on Near East theology of divine councils. One God, everything else is just a light.
To be a Christian is to be the "master race". It is for freedom that we have been set free, we are kings and priests, we are Jews inwardly. Anyone is free to be the "master race" if they want, by becoming servants of Jesus. Those who don't are still the human race but they have continued to reject the image of God in them so they serve anyone else.
to be a christian is to be a 'jew who says they are a jew but are not, and do lie'. To be a christian is to be a 'jew in name only' and one of those pretenders whom Jesus in the book of Revelation had such disdain for. Jews and muslims would count as these false jews.
Since your handle is literally named after Jacob-Israel, why don't you step back a bit and tell us what positive belief you hold rather than nitpick (often mistakenly) at Christianity? This is an elite research forum, not a rumpus room.
this is not an elite research forum - its turned into a bit of a christian echo-chamber populated by just a tint handful of the same people.
If it were really elite research then how come you just adopt all the brainless interpretations of the bible that have been handed to you, rather than having read the thing yourself and uncovered the obvious...?!?!
to be a Christian is to be a 'jew who says they are a jew but are not, and do lie'.
Verse? Verse? Biblical Israelites served God. The ones Jesus drove out were being contraBiblical. Also, God is in charge, so He can add anyone He wants into the fold. Do you complain if a web developer implements some Python into his C++ code or vice versa?? Well if you don't then you should do so now.
To be a Christian is to be a 'jew in name only' and
See above.
one of those pretenders whom Jesus in the book of Revelation had such disdain for.
No, Christians are loved like all humans are, and blessed.
No, he is called the Lord God of Israel to distinguish himself from his competitor gods, of whom he was jealous. The name denotes who he is the god of -the people Israel. Whereas all other people had their own gods. Like Moab, Chemosh, Diana, Thor, et al
Those gods were of course later banned via the successful conquest of the Jewish religion and its offshoots Islam and Christianity. Our own native gods, religions and ancestors were considered persona non-grata, lumped together as 'goyim', 'gentile', 'kafir' or 'pagan' and systematically destroyed and replaced by this god of a hostile foreign people who believe themselves to be destined to rule over us all.
thats not what I say - it's what he says all throughout the bible. Nowhere in the Bible will you see god claiming to be the god of any other people than israel
No, he is called the Lord God of Israel to distinguish himself from His competitor gods
Those competitor gods were made out of wood and stone. Weakest. gods. ever.
of whom he was jealous.
If a kid insults a MAGA mom and MAGA dad who gave him lots of food and drink and protection and went off to stick himself with a TDS covid vaxed gay leftist ""couple"", wouldn't they be "jealous" (your word) too?
The name denotes who He is the God of the people Israel.
In the sense they should serve Him.
Whereas all other people had their own gods. Like Moab, Chemosh, Diana, Thor, et al
Well now that didn't help them in any way did it. There is one true worldview and all the rest are fake. Theirs was fake. Deal with it. When you're proven wrong you better admit you're wrong instead of gaslighting yourself.
Those gods were of course later banned via the successful conquest of the Jewish religion
And good came from it, yes? Why would you think worshiping some statue is good? How weird.
and its offshoots Islam and Christianity. Our own native gods, religions and ancestors were considered persona non-grata, lumped together as 'goyim', 'gentile', 'kafir' or 'pagan' and systematically destroyed and replaced by this God of a hostile foreign people who believe themselves to be destined to rule over us all.
"That's a bad thing!" No it isn't. If paganism was still the norm we'd be doing magic Drool Lid rituals instead of using electricity.
He's the Lord God of Israel and of NO-ONE else.
Wrong. He is everyone's. Aren't you glad we are in the NT and not the OT? Who did Jesus drive out, hmm? Your darwin never did any such thing. Nor did odin. Nor did your little pencil shaped idol on your shelf. Only Jesus saved us and rose, and got people like Antony flew and Lee strobel on His side. On the contrary, odin and Pencilgod have no reason for anyone to believe in them.
Hahaha. This thread proves my point, pigeon. u/mrexreturns
The false notion is that Christianity induces a fear based view.
Both fear and love towards God co-exist in the Christian, and MUST. By the fear of the Lord men depart from evil, we never outgrow the need for that but we learn to REPENT, making our need to lean on this aspect less and less frequent. The path of the just is like the shining light, that gets brighter and brighter unto the perfect day, another passage from Proverbs.
Basically what happens is as we grow in the Lord, fear gets swallowed up by Love :) In fact one telltale sign of the Love of God at work (rather than other types of love) is that it never displaces the fear of the Lord. They coexist
BUT
Christianity should never be "fear based." Everyone first comes to God as a lion; specifically, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. God put an Angel with a flaming fiery sword at the entrance to Eden after kicking Adam and Eve out of it, to make sure they weren't getting back in; I'm sure that was a scary sight! And it worked: had Adam and Eve been thinking about going back into Eden, they saw that and REPENTED! They changed their mind and decided it would not be a good idea, which is exactly what "repent" means. Without the fear of the Lord they wouldn't have departed from that particular evil.
Christianity does have paradox. And mystery! But if your Faith is actually based on fear something's horribly wrong, and hopefully you're being driven by the Holy Spirit to address that right quick ..."
The false notion is that Christianity induces a fear based view.
Both fear and love towards God co-exist in the Christian, and MUST. By the fear of the Lord men depart from evil, we never outgrow the need for that but we learn to REPENT, making our need to lean on this aspect less and less frequent. The path of the just is like the shining light, that gets brighter and brighter unto the perfect day, another passage from Proverbs.
Basically what happens is as we grow in the Lord, fear gets swallowed up by Love :) In fact one telltale sign of the Love of God at work (rather than other types of love) is that it never displaces the fear of the Lord. They coexist
BUT
Christianity should never be "fear based." Everyone first comes to God as a lion; specifically, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. God put an Angel with a flaming fiery sword at the entrance to Eden after kicking Adam and Eve out of it, to make sure they weren't getting back in; I'm sure that was a scary sight! And it worked: had Adam and Eve been thinking about going back into Eden, they saw that and REPENTED! They changed their mind and decided it would not be a good idea, which is exactly what "repent" means. Without the fear of the Lord they wouldn't have departed from that particular evil.
Christianity does have paradox. And mystery! But if your Faith is actually based on fear something's horribly wrong, and hopefully you're being driven by the Holy Spirit to address that right quick ..."
Since we have been transformed by Christ, we should “take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them” (Ephesians 5:11, ESV). The “unfruitful works of darkness” include things like sexual immorality, impurity, covetousness, filthiness, foolish talk, and crude joking (verses 3–4). These things are unfruitful because they do not produce the Righteousness of God. In contrast, believers should “walk as children of light (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true)” (verse 9). By walking in the light, we can “discern what is pleasing to the Lord” (verse 10).
Meanwhile what does your worldview offer, hmmm???
Why does anyone like, prefer, seek truth? Instead of whats false? Instead of not?
Why is anyone OFFENDED by nontruths/lies? Not just "let it fly", not "happy", but OFFENDED? Pretty unnecessary in a "no-God" view.
Hallmarks of athiests:
Misunderstand/dont want to understand Christianity (With you, yes)
Most focus their negative energy on Christianity more than other belief systems. (more general - behavior visible across many types of nonChristians) (Partly)
Use many logical fallacies (With you, yes)
Probably believe in evo, bigbang, millions years (Probably but not know)
Believing in a naturalistic and limited grasp of parts of the Bible. A degraded version of what God has said. Sorta like the "Telephone game". (With you, yes)
human nature is to repel away from the Biblical God, so He canNOT be made up. So people are more comfy with evo than BIBLICAL Christianity.
Ever notice how humanity has such an adverse shock reaction to Christianity, despite it being very famous and allegedly believed by 2 billion? If it is so famous and widely believed and teaches love, hope, joy, mercy, peace, why do people have such a lash out anger reaction to it?? Weird. No other religion has these traits. If Christianity is made up no one should lash out, everyone should be cozy. People are cozyier to other religions than Christianity it seems.
"The probability of the universe creating itself in a one off event with the fine tuning that is present is 1 in 10 to the 10 to the 123rd. (Roger Penrose, an atheist physicist calculated it.) How big is that number? You could liken it to a blind guy floating in the universe and told to pick one certain particle and he does it first try. u/Mrexreturns But not just one universe but a billion. THAT is why they have resorted to the rediculous theory of a random universe generator (really!)."
https://thepostmillennial.com/just-in-two-churches-intentionally-set-on-fire-in-north-carolina-police
Notion/nocere - "come to know"...hence motion (all perceivable) bringing notion (ones perception) into being. Others suggest true and false to tempt emotion into conflict.
Being implies within (in) lead (duce)...others suggest hope and fear to distract one with outcomes from origin.
God towards...each one within responses to being (life) forwarded (inception towards death).
God implies singularity; to christen implies the anointment of each one within...few suggest existentialism to tempt together into co-existence.
Coexistence implies ones ignorance of singularity for the manifold.
Must/med - "to take measures"... https://www.etymonline.com/word/must
Only God gives (inception) and takes (death) being (life)...few trick many to take suggested information into mind/memory as measurement.
Evil implies versus good, hence not departing apart from one another, but turning against one another into mutual conflict.
Light generates a spectrum, which separates each distinct ray in-between bright/dark and from one another....others suggest likeness to corrupt the visible spectrum of light aka the "browning" of the world.
Aka the LI'ON (ly'in) of the tribe of judah...
God does not imply singularity and you have no basis for making that assertion.
God does (cause)...each one within responses (effect). No aka nothing (nihilo) implies ones de-nial of what God does for what other ones are doing.
https://biblestudyforyou.com/bible-verses-about-god-being-the-only-god/
What could be more (plural) than God?
One cannot have (possess) a basis...one (partial) can only come into being within a singular basis (whole). Coming into being implies divination aka the division of all into each one during motion.
Only while being FORwarded can one make something...to assert (join together) tempts one to ignore that forward motion (inception towards death) divides matter (life) from one another.
Assertion implies a synthesis (joining together); being implies analysis (divided apart)...others trick being with assertion into denying self.
Your link purports to be examples of god being the only go, but includes this as one of the examples:
Exodus 20:3 “You shall have no other gods before me.” – Exodus 20:3
an acknowledgment that there are other gods.
a) ...BEFORE aka being (life) forwarded (inception towards death) aka one singular progression for each ones potential within.
b) Ones mind can be tricked to acknowledge one another as more than one aka pluralism.
c) Can you describe an example for any effect that has more than one cause?
d) Can one be more or less than oneself? Growing from infancy into an adult and then shrinking into an elderly...where's the plurality in that singular curvature?
Yeah, false gods. If I worship a house, does that mean it nade the universe? No. It simply sits there, and is a creation not the Creator.
Yes, just as there are other lights and one true Light, there are other judges and one true Judge. Look into Michael Heiser's dissertation on Near East theology of divine councils. One God, everything else is just a light.
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If you must talk about ‘the Lord’ and ‘God’, can you at least be respectful and give him his full title please? He is ‘The Lord God of Israel’
And? He goes by many Names and Titles. Biblical Christianity is objectively the freest worldview in existence.
Simply not true. To be a Christian is to acknowledge that there is a master race above you whom it is your destiny to serve.
To be a Christian is to be the "master race". It is for freedom that we have been set free, we are kings and priests, we are Jews inwardly. Anyone is free to be the "master race" if they want, by becoming servants of Jesus. Those who don't are still the human race but they have continued to reject the image of God in them so they serve anyone else.
to be a christian is to be a 'jew who says they are a jew but are not, and do lie'. To be a christian is to be a 'jew in name only' and one of those pretenders whom Jesus in the book of Revelation had such disdain for. Jews and muslims would count as these false jews.
That's much more convoluted than the last attempt at expositing this passage, which has a totally different historical setting.
Since your handle is literally named after Jacob-Israel, why don't you step back a bit and tell us what positive belief you hold rather than nitpick (often mistakenly) at Christianity? This is an elite research forum, not a rumpus room.
this is not an elite research forum - its turned into a bit of a christian echo-chamber populated by just a tint handful of the same people.
If it were really elite research then how come you just adopt all the brainless interpretations of the bible that have been handed to you, rather than having read the thing yourself and uncovered the obvious...?!?!
Verse? Verse? Biblical Israelites served God. The ones Jesus drove out were being contraBiblical. Also, God is in charge, so He can add anyone He wants into the fold. Do you complain if a web developer implements some Python into his C++ code or vice versa?? Well if you don't then you should do so now.
See above.
No, Christians are loved like all humans are, and blessed.
When have muslims pretended to be jews?
How so? What do you mean? Who is the "master"?
He was the Lord God Almighty before Israel was even born.
No, he is called the Lord God of Israel to distinguish himself from his competitor gods, of whom he was jealous. The name denotes who he is the god of -the people Israel. Whereas all other people had their own gods. Like Moab, Chemosh, Diana, Thor, et al
Those gods were of course later banned via the successful conquest of the Jewish religion and its offshoots Islam and Christianity. Our own native gods, religions and ancestors were considered persona non-grata, lumped together as 'goyim', 'gentile', 'kafir' or 'pagan' and systematically destroyed and replaced by this god of a hostile foreign people who believe themselves to be destined to rule over us all.
He's the Lord God of Israel and of NO-ONE else.
No, He is called the Most High God, creation's Creator.
what do you mean 'no'? Are you saying he doesn't refer to himself as the god of israel?
Perhaps you attempt to belittle His title by only being the God of Israel? Then I'm saying it won't work.
thats not what I say - it's what he says all throughout the bible. Nowhere in the Bible will you see god claiming to be the god of any other people than israel
Those competitor gods were made out of wood and stone. Weakest. gods. ever.
If a kid insults a MAGA mom and MAGA dad who gave him lots of food and drink and protection and went off to stick himself with a TDS covid vaxed gay leftist ""couple"", wouldn't they be "jealous" (your word) too?
In the sense they should serve Him.
Well now that didn't help them in any way did it. There is one true worldview and all the rest are fake. Theirs was fake. Deal with it. When you're proven wrong you better admit you're wrong instead of gaslighting yourself.
And good came from it, yes? Why would you think worshiping some statue is good? How weird.
"That's a bad thing!" No it isn't. If paganism was still the norm we'd be doing magic Drool Lid rituals instead of using electricity.
Wrong. He is everyone's. Aren't you glad we are in the NT and not the OT? Who did Jesus drive out, hmm? Your darwin never did any such thing. Nor did odin. Nor did your little pencil shaped idol on your shelf. Only Jesus saved us and rose, and got people like Antony flew and Lee strobel on His side. On the contrary, odin and Pencilgod have no reason for anyone to believe in them.
Why the downvote?
I didn't downvote you
Hahaha. This thread proves my point, pigeon. u/mrexreturns
The false notion is that Christianity induces a fear based view.
Both fear and love towards God co-exist in the Christian, and MUST. By the fear of the Lord men depart from evil, we never outgrow the need for that but we learn to REPENT, making our need to lean on this aspect less and less frequent. The path of the just is like the shining light, that gets brighter and brighter unto the perfect day, another passage from Proverbs.
Basically what happens is as we grow in the Lord, fear gets swallowed up by Love :) In fact one telltale sign of the Love of God at work (rather than other types of love) is that it never displaces the fear of the Lord. They coexist
BUT
Christianity should never be "fear based." Everyone first comes to God as a lion; specifically, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. God put an Angel with a flaming fiery sword at the entrance to Eden after kicking Adam and Eve out of it, to make sure they weren't getting back in; I'm sure that was a scary sight! And it worked: had Adam and Eve been thinking about going back into Eden, they saw that and REPENTED! They changed their mind and decided it would not be a good idea, which is exactly what "repent" means. Without the fear of the Lord they wouldn't have departed from that particular evil.
Christianity does have paradox. And mystery! But if your Faith is actually based on fear something's horribly wrong, and hopefully you're being driven by the Holy Spirit to address that right quick ..."