When Newton's estate was donated to the University of Cambridge, university representatives were not interested in his theological writings and refused to accept them. Which is interesting since these were most of the writings belonging to Sir Isaac Newton. He dedicated his life to decoding biblical prophecy to force the Second Coming (or the messianic age in judaism). Today we refer to this as the New World Order, which is actually the Old World Order at the time of Nimrod.
But many were interested in these manuscripts including Albert Einstein. "While the formative development of Newton’s lasting physics works must remain shrouded in darkness, because Newton apparently destroyed his preparatory works, we do have in this domain of his works on the Bible drafts and their repeated modification" - Einstein. September 1940, Saranac Lake
I like that, let's then cut to the chase. OK. You also asked me about the Gospel of Thomas (GoT), so here it is. IMO, Yeshu (Jesus to you) taught something totally different than the great majority of so-called Christians understand & follow today. He described something profoundly inner, he taught to listen to his words and meditate on them and not to believe in a character. This way we are activating the state of consciousness. So, he offered the keys.
On the other hand Saul of Tarsus (aka Paul) a pharisee, what today we would call a jew, took the keys away (GoT Saying 39: The Keys of Knowledge). Paul created a door (or a gate since we’re talking about gatekeeping) that can only be opened from the outside. And the deception lies exactly here, perhaps that’s where the word “gatekeeping” should come from. Yeshu said “listen to my words”, Paul says “believe me of who Yeshu is”. This change seems small & insignificant, in reality is monumental, it changes everything. And Paul had help from the system. The words of Paul today form most of the books of the New Testament. Hundreds of manuscripts, including Gospels, and religious writings, were considered merely Apocrypha, not part of the accepted canon of Scriptures.
When you focus on the words you work your inner self. When you focus on the person, even Christ, you depend externally. And that’s where the addiction comes from and it matters. "That which you have will save you if you bring it forth from yourselves. That which you do not have within you will kill you if you do not have it within you." – GoT Saying 70
Yeshu gave us a message of spiritual autonomy, which is very dangerous to any system of power. A slave with inner light does not fear death, a peasant with a sense of divine stature does not accept being owned by the system or someone else, and a whole nation moved by inner courage & character it’s not possible to control. Paul replaces this with belief and hands interpretive power back to the system (authority, the Church or Rome). Paul shifts the center of experience and creates a new kind of structure. A structure that will grow much faster as a community than any individual autonomy. You could say Paul was the original architect of what today we call social media.
Paul was very familiar with an ancient Greek art of using words not to seek truth but to construct reality. Paul takes Yeshu’s message of spiritual autonomy and redirects/reconstructs it as a message of spiritual submission. 😭
So I don't see the problem. Here I am seeking the words of Yeshu, and I have them in print in many approved and disapproved sources, and also in my heart, and I know how to reconcile them, and they are life, and I'm enjoying the seeking and finding. What we've been discussing is mostly historical points, where I'm busy focusing on what happened (because Yeshu doesn't divorce me from reality), and my reading is that you're focusing on overall messages and narratives based on "understanding Yeshu" in some way that very few do. Now fiction has power to help us understand up to a point, but truth has power too, and unadmitted fiction (deception) has no power because it loses more power overall than it gains. So whether you want your narratives to be admitted fictions or truths, I'm okay with that. But then there shouldn't be any conflict between seeking Yeshu and my making statements like "Analysis of Grosser reveals 12 modern nations Jews were expelled from as well as regions of several others".
So I appreciate your sharing, and I seek to integrate what you've said. And yet obviously Yeshu better integrated for himself all the keys he shared with others than others did, so there's a sense in which he's always beyond us, his words are always capable of more meaning than we've realized. Where's the dispute then, if any?
my reading is that you're focusing on overall messages and narratives based on "understanding Yeshu" in some way that very few do
You could say that, and you wouldn't be wrong. After Yeshu died, his brother James the Just inherited the movement. This group was called the Ebionites (The Poor) and they had a very different understanding of Yeshu's message than what Christianity teaches today. However this original, let's call it Christian movement led by James, which was closely aligned with the Essenes, was suppressed and erased. Pauline Christianity and Roman rule triumphed.
his words are always capable of more meaning than we've realized
I'm curious what his words mean to you. There are many denominations Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Evangelical, Mormon and yet most Christians agree on three things:
Trinity, God exists as three persons Father, Son and Holy Spirit
Jesus died for our sins and
so-called Second Coming when Jesus will return to earth for the Last Judgment, to determine who goes to heaven or hell
Just because it's obvious to you doesn't make it right. The Greater Israel Project originated with Isaac Newton, a high-degree Freemason and an occultist. Remember I said the first Freemason we know of was Nimrod.
When Newton's estate was donated to the University of Cambridge, university representatives were not interested in his theological writings and refused to accept them. Which is interesting since these were most of the writings belonging to Sir Isaac Newton. He dedicated his life to decoding biblical prophecy to force the Second Coming (or the messianic age in judaism). Today we refer to this as the New World Order, which is actually the Old World Order at the time of Nimrod.
But many were interested in these manuscripts including Albert Einstein. "While the formative development of Newton’s lasting physics works must remain shrouded in darkness, because Newton apparently destroyed his preparatory works, we do have in this domain of his works on the Bible drafts and their repeated modification" - Einstein. September 1940, Saranac Lake
So cutting to the chase .... who do you trust?
What gate would you like me not to keep? AFAIK I only have one gate, and it's kept for me by Another.
I like that, let's then cut to the chase. OK. You also asked me about the Gospel of Thomas (GoT), so here it is. IMO, Yeshu (Jesus to you) taught something totally different than the great majority of so-called Christians understand & follow today. He described something profoundly inner, he taught to listen to his words and meditate on them and not to believe in a character. This way we are activating the state of consciousness. So, he offered the keys.
On the other hand Saul of Tarsus (aka Paul) a pharisee, what today we would call a jew, took the keys away (GoT Saying 39: The Keys of Knowledge). Paul created a door (or a gate since we’re talking about gatekeeping) that can only be opened from the outside. And the deception lies exactly here, perhaps that’s where the word “gatekeeping” should come from. Yeshu said “listen to my words”, Paul says “believe me of who Yeshu is”. This change seems small & insignificant, in reality is monumental, it changes everything. And Paul had help from the system. The words of Paul today form most of the books of the New Testament. Hundreds of manuscripts, including Gospels, and religious writings, were considered merely Apocrypha, not part of the accepted canon of Scriptures.
When you focus on the words you work your inner self. When you focus on the person, even Christ, you depend externally. And that’s where the addiction comes from and it matters. "That which you have will save you if you bring it forth from yourselves. That which you do not have within you will kill you if you do not have it within you." – GoT Saying 70
Yeshu gave us a message of spiritual autonomy, which is very dangerous to any system of power. A slave with inner light does not fear death, a peasant with a sense of divine stature does not accept being owned by the system or someone else, and a whole nation moved by inner courage & character it’s not possible to control. Paul replaces this with belief and hands interpretive power back to the system (authority, the Church or Rome). Paul shifts the center of experience and creates a new kind of structure. A structure that will grow much faster as a community than any individual autonomy. You could say Paul was the original architect of what today we call social media.
Paul was very familiar with an ancient Greek art of using words not to seek truth but to construct reality. Paul takes Yeshu’s message of spiritual autonomy and redirects/reconstructs it as a message of spiritual submission. 😭
So I don't see the problem. Here I am seeking the words of Yeshu, and I have them in print in many approved and disapproved sources, and also in my heart, and I know how to reconcile them, and they are life, and I'm enjoying the seeking and finding. What we've been discussing is mostly historical points, where I'm busy focusing on what happened (because Yeshu doesn't divorce me from reality), and my reading is that you're focusing on overall messages and narratives based on "understanding Yeshu" in some way that very few do. Now fiction has power to help us understand up to a point, but truth has power too, and unadmitted fiction (deception) has no power because it loses more power overall than it gains. So whether you want your narratives to be admitted fictions or truths, I'm okay with that. But then there shouldn't be any conflict between seeking Yeshu and my making statements like "Analysis of Grosser reveals 12 modern nations Jews were expelled from as well as regions of several others".
So I appreciate your sharing, and I seek to integrate what you've said. And yet obviously Yeshu better integrated for himself all the keys he shared with others than others did, so there's a sense in which he's always beyond us, his words are always capable of more meaning than we've realized. Where's the dispute then, if any?
You could say that, and you wouldn't be wrong. After Yeshu died, his brother James the Just inherited the movement. This group was called the Ebionites (The Poor) and they had a very different understanding of Yeshu's message than what Christianity teaches today. However this original, let's call it Christian movement led by James, which was closely aligned with the Essenes, was suppressed and erased. Pauline Christianity and Roman rule triumphed.
I'm curious what his words mean to you. There are many denominations Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Evangelical, Mormon and yet most Christians agree on three things:
Are these your beliefs?